Hi Ken, Your guess of what the circuit looks like is correct. It would have 2 = lines attached, and goes between layer1 to layer 27 (you have to look at = the xsection to see which layers these are. Be sure to count the = dielectrics and planes also) Regards, John Horner -----Original Message----- From: Ken Beach [mailto:kenbeach@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 3:19 PM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Specctraquest Model ? Hi, I have a question regarding the meaning of the Signal Explorer net list model for a via. The model definition is immediately below: .subckt VIA_A_VIA_25C17CSM_L1A0W600L27A-135W300_FST_4978 +1 2 CL1A0W600 1 0 2.18755e-13 CL27A-135W300 2 0 2.18755e-13 RLL1A0W600_L27A-135W300 1 2 1e-7 L=3D2.33327e-09 .ends VIA_A_VIA_25C17CSM_L1A0W600L27A-135W300_FST_4978 I think this model definition is defining a pi network with a 0.218pf capacitor on the left, a 0.218pf capacitor on the right and a resistor = of 10^-7 in series with a 2.33nH inductor in the arm bridging between nodes = 1 and 2. However, we can't find in, the help manual, a clear description = of the RLL1A0W etc. bridging arm. So, here we are guessing. Does anybody = know what that bridging arm statement is saying? Thanks in advance Ken ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: =20 //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu