[SI-LIST] Re: SpecctraQuest Vs. Hyperlinks
- From: "Hargin, Bill" <bill_hargin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'chris.mcgrath@xxxxxxxx'" <chris.mcgrath@xxxxxxxx>,Si-List <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 11:11:41 -0700
Hi Chris:
Thanks for the comments. You may be happy to know that HL7.5 (target release
in Q4) will make "free-form" schematics (i.e., drag-and-drop) possible in
LineSim, in addition to the schematic grid that you mention here. (By the way,
for a lot of schematics, the grid is handy and preferred by some, so we're
making the two form-factors "toggleable." Which is preferred depends on the
user, and the design.)
Several issues that Ravinder pointed out in his 14 April e-mail will also be
addressed in 7.5.
(Not intending to make this into a HyperForum ... Just want to clear up a
couple of issues.)
Bill Hargin
Product Manager - HyperLynx
Mentor Graphics Corp.
425-497-5079 - Direct
425-301-4425 - Mobile
> -----Original Message-----
> From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Chris McGrath
> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 10:06 AM
> To: Si-List
> Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: SpecctraQuest Vs. Hyperlinks
>
>
> Hyperlynx does do SPICE simulation if you buy a SPICE engine to put
> behind it (we use Synopsis HSPICE) and from what I am
> hearing, Hyperlynx
> now uses the ICX simulation engine. The consensus that I
> have heard and
> endorse is that Hyperlynx is a high-end tool that is capable of
> multi-GHz simulation. I just signed up for their v7.2 beta
> program and
> it looks to significantly enhance their GHz and above simulation
> capabilities.
>
> I don't know that much about the other tools but I just
> wanted to stick
> up for Hyperlynx a little bit. It certainly has some annoyances
> (drawing circuits is somewhat painful) but it is a powerful tool and I
> really like the post-route simulator (Boardsim).
>
> -Chris
>
> >=20
> > Hi Gil,
> >=20
> > It really depends on what you what to simulate. I've
> > found that both tools are very good at what they do.
> > Hyperlynx is a IBIS simultor and is a fine tool for
> > simulating sub 1G devices and models however it starts
> > to fall over at the higher speeds and more complex
> > systems.
> >=20
> > SpectraQuest is a very robust tool but to get the most
> > out of it you need a HSPICE license, pushing the price
> > of the tool up. However I've used it for simulations
> > up to 10Gbps.
> >=20
> > Another tool to consider is ICX from Mentor Graphics.
> > This uses the ELDO simulator (Mentors own SPICE
> > simulator). It others comparable features to
> > SpectraQuest but you don't have to get an addtional
> > SPICE simulator.
> >=20
> > For all the tools most IC vendors offer good support
> > in both models and deisgn kits.=20
> >=20
> > Cheers,
> >=20
> > Jonathan
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