Yiran, I'm not sure that there is a hard fast (normal) rule for a scaling ratio from 0.18um to 0.13um. Is the metal changing from aluminum to copper? How has the dielectric between metal layers changed? What are the thickness and pitch limits? These are the types of issues that can significantly vary your results based on the specific technology you are using for your design. Hopefully your Fab has already characterized the metal layers and can provide you results that you can use for your design rules. TSMC does this as a matter of practice. The last technology shift that I worked on was 0.25um to 0.13um, we both modeled and created a test chip (measured) to characterize the 8 layers of metal. We then modified our original wire models based on the measured results. Regards, Chris Jakubiec Sun Microsystems Yiran Chen wrote: > > Hi, guys > > Now I am studying the on-chip power grids scaling issue. It is claimed that > the on-chip power grids is hard to scaled. Could someone give me a example to > show what is the normal rule to caculate the scaling ratio of powr supply > grid. > > For example, when we scale our technolgoy from .18um to .13 um, for the metal > 6 which is used to implement power supply mesh, do we need to shrink the > width, thickness and pitch of our power supply mesh? > > If so ( I believe so), what is the normal ratio? How does this ratio affect > the RLC of power supply mesh? > > Thanks. > > Yiran > > > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > List FAQ wiki page is located at: > http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl > > List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.org > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu