[SI-LIST] Re: Scale option in Hspice
- From: Ed Sayre III <esayre3@xxxxxxxx>
- To: JIWU@xxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 13:02:29 -0400
Andrew is completely correct. The scale feature is extensively used in the
semiconductor models in HSPICE. In fact I have had problems when different
models use different scale factors. If you need to come up with a scale
factor introduce it as your own variable.
Have fun
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At 09:39 AM 5/31/2005 -0700, Jing Wu wrote:
>Andrew:
>
> =20
> If you look at Hspice maual ( page 4-35) in document " Hspice
>analysis and simulation user guide" ( version 2004.03), it says:=20
>
> Td: signal delay from transmission line, in seconds per meter
> L : physical length of the transmission line, in units of meters.
>Default =3D1
> =20
> I also did a simple spice simulation, first define T element as :
>
> TXtline near vss far vss Z0=3D50 Td=3D5n , total delays is 5n
>=20
> next define T element as:
> =20
> TXtline near vss far vss Z0=3D50 L=3D2 Td=3D5n , total delays is =
>10n
>
> Since the default value of L is 1 meter, that why Td "looks like" the
>total delay of the transmission line. I ask this " scale" question
>because I find out in some cases, scale option affects Td but not
>affects L.=20
>
>Thanks,
>Jing=20
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>On Behalf Of Andrew Ingraham
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>Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Scale option in Hspice
>
>
>It affects length, not time.
>
>T-elements have no "length". The delay you specify is the total delay,
>not the delay per length. In your case it is 5ns, period.
>
>In my opinion, the "scale" option is one of the more dangerous features
>in Hspice.
>
>Regards,
>Andy
>
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