[SI-LIST] Re: SSN Vs Load cap
- From: Vadim Heyfitch <htc2rl@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: starsilic@xxxxxxxxx, si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 21:10:04 -0800 (PST)
One study of a complex SSN model, which I am intimately familiar with, showed
that DECREASING the load capacitance from 10pF down to about 2-3pF actually
reduces the SSN noise observed at the load. Below 2-3pF, it's flat. However,
this was true for the loads being about 3 inches away from the component (i.e.
about 500ps of flight time). For this length of the t-lines, separating the
loads from the drivers, the rise time is somewhat comparable with the flight
time. Thus, it's a mixed picture. If the lines are much longer or much shorter
than Tr/Tf the results could be quite different. However, the same model showed
that stretching the lines to 9" inches did not materially affect the amount of
noise at the load. If the lines are long, the driver does not feel the presence
of the load - only the t-lines (the point made by Larry Smith earlier on this
thread.)
It would be interesting to see results of an experiment - rather than
simulation.
-Vadim Heyfitch
Altera
Canes Venatici <starsilic@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi all,
I couldn't understand why if load capacitance is increased, SSN is reduced (as
the recommendation is increased SSO index, more signal pads can be accommodated
by power pads).
As di/dt is directly proportional to load cap, increasing the load causes more
drop in parasitic inductance and SSN should increase.
Could anyone clarify.
Thanks,
Canes
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