[SI-LIST] Re: SPAM: Score 3.9: Re: HSPICE and Via Modeling
- From: dav0 <david.lieby@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 08:37:00 -0700
Thanks to everyone for the replies. I was mostly
looking at extracting the capacitance and it may
be the best thing to just do the math, though I
have not seen too much in the way of formulae for
capacitance of a via shaft penetrating a plane.
Perhaps a good Physics book should be on the
shopping list.
Thanks Everyone!
dav0
David Lieby
Siemens Medical Solutions, Ultrasound Division, MVIS-S
?? wrote:
> Hi,David
> I think you don't need to consider the via impact under such low frequency.
>
>
> > I have an engineer who wants a detailed model of a via.
> > Mostly he is looking for capacitance. The part of the
> > system he is working on runs at less than 5 MHz. The
> > via is blind, with the closed end of the via ending
> > fairly close to a ground plane.
> >
> >
> >
> > __ __ Top Pad
> > ________ ][ _____ Reference layer
> > ][
> > ---------][----- routing layer 1
> > ---------][----- routing layer 2
> > ________ ][ _____ Reference layer
> > ][
> > ---------][----- routing layer 3
> > ---------][----- routing layer 4
> > ________ ][ _____ Reference layer
> > ][
> > ---------][----- routing layer 5
> > ---------][----- routing layer 6
> > __][__ Bottom pad, end of via
> > _________________ Reference layer, at center of stackup
> >
> > the same stackup reversed.
> >
> > My questions:
> > 1. Can one analyze this in HSPICE?
> > 2. Does anyone have a spice deck with anywhere near
> > a starting point, that they can share.
> >
> > The vendor support engineer could not come up with
> > anything helpful.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > dav0
> > David Lieby
> > Siemens Medical, USD, MVIS-S
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