[SI-LIST] Re: SI Tools

Hi Ingo,

I'm using Tau and IS-Analyzer, but I have not used any other tool. I 
can tell you, it's not so easy to use (and fully understand what you 
get) as you could think at first. What I hate the most it is the 
interface, the spreadsheet style is not friendly at all. It's really 
difficult to understand specially in Tau!

Another difficult point is MODELS. You need ibis models to use in IS 
(Mentor has a CD sold separetly, as usual) but you are going to need 
more... and it not easy to find them (manufacturers are not very 
friendly in this area). In Tau you need timing models, difficult to 
find too (but you can make your own models from datasheet and timing 
diagrams... it's hard and boring)

I don't know but is there anyone who has used another tool and solved 
these problems easily? Is there another guy with experience using IS 
and TAU? Here in Spain, few people use this kind of tools (or at least 
I don't know any company who has bought these tools)

Good luck!
Regards,

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Carlos Castillo
Alcatel Espacio
Digital Engineering
Tres Cantos - Madrid (Spain)

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De: "Ingo Kupper" <ikupper@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Fecha: Viernes, Junio 28, 2002 2:50 am
Asunto: [SI-LIST] SI Tools

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> Hello SI guys,
> 
> I am following all those questions and answers
> about SI for a year plus and I saw a lot of
> questions regarding SI tools.
> We are looking into buying a new CAD tool for our
> hole corporation, which has locations worldwide.
> So far, Mentor came in with the best offer, but I
> never saw any Q&A here on the list about the
> Mentor SI tool (Tau, IS-Analyzer,
> IS-Floorplanner). All those tools are claiming to
> be SI tools for board level timing verification,
> signal integrity, delay and crosstalk analysis,
> timing analysis, signal quality etc.
> 
> I would like to get some opinions, critics, pros
> and cons about the Mentor SI tools versa the
> Cadence tools or Hyperlynx (which was PADS and now
> is also Mentor).
> Any experience and guidance would be appreciated!
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Ingo
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