All- This is an interesting thread. My two cents' worth: * The "return path" through nearby traces is the underlying cause of crosstalk. * The limitation with fluid (and other) analogies is that it is hard to visualize crosstalk as part of the return path, since there is no physical connection between the coupled traces. In fact, the coupling works perfectly well in air or a vacuum. Given that, there are still times when a fluidic model is convenient for visualization. * The signal travels faster than the average electron drift speed or even an individual electron's RMS speed, courtesy of Maxwell. * And I agree, many engineers forget Maxwell's equations unless they use them frequently. (Although I freely admit I still look them up when I need them.) Best regards to all, Lynne ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu