Well, There are some tools out there that will export the proper S parameters in Touchstone format that will reward you with the proper response down to DC (Sonnet). Still, there are others that claim they can do the same (some better than others). A sufficient condition for passivity is that I - S * S' must have eigenvalues that have non-negative real parts. Also, the sum of squares of magnitudes of S-parameters on each row of the S-matrix < 1 is necessary but not sufficient condition for passivity. You may want to check with Terraspeed Consulting. They recently did a lot of good work answering this specific question. Also, look up the papers presented at DesignCon 2004. There were others that investigated this question as well. Craig -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Deng, Zhichao Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 6:27 AM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Rational Approximation with passivity enforcement I am a PhD student and I am doing literature research on the topic of rational approximation with passivity enforcement. It seems that the passivity enforcement are almost based on the state space form with LMI or Hamiltonian matrices for the passivity of either Y or S parameters. 1) Is there any commercial tool available has passivity enforcement capability? 2) What is the latest trend on passivity enforcement? 3) How to fix DC value of S parameter during vector fitting process? Thank you. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu