[SI-LIST] Re: Proper use of the Si-List
- From: Mike Brown <bmgman@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: tom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 08:36:36 -0500
Well said, Tom.
Mike
Tom Dagostino wrote:
> I sense a lot of frustration here. On Sitar's side because he is not
> getting the answers he wants. On SI List respondents' side because of
> perception.
>
> Regis McKenna once wrote "perception is all there is". The general meaning
> of this is that people will form impressions, right or wrong, about a
> product (Regis' context) by what they can see about that product.
>
> The other saying that seems to apply here is "you only have one chance to
> make a first impression". Whether it is a new product or meeting a person
> for the first time, this applies.
>
> Sitar, you have a screen name that comes across as un-professional.
> Advertising yourself as a monkey does not place your best foot forward, your
> first impression is not favorable. People won't take you seriously.
>
> People will try to understand who is asking the question before answering.
> I know that many times before I'll answer a question on this list I'll look
> up the company or institution that the questioner is associated with.
> Sometimes it gives me insight into where the answer needs to go. College
> students get one answer, a long time SI expert gets a different answer. For
> a number of reasons yahoo accounts have a poor perception, to many of the
> questions lately that could have been answered with a little research have
> come from yahoo addresses.
>
> People tend to do things colored by what they perceive as their best
> interests. Most engineers don't want to educate their or their companies'
> competitors. Not knowing who they are talking to leads many to not want to
> educate a potential competitor.
>
> Which leads to perception is colored by people who also have not placed
> their best foot forward. Call it guilt by association. A lot of the
> questions by these people are really very basic. One question that comes
> to mind recently was from a consulting firm that is making an IBIS model for
> someone else (I assume) and has not read the IBIS specification. The
> question in this case was not rocket science, it is knowledge that I expect
> a technician working for me to be able to look up and understand.
>
> I can understand the frustration of people who see qualified friends without
> jobs while others cannot do the job they were hired to do. Unfortunately
> the electronics industry seems to have gotten into a management mode of
> engineers are interchangeable, you can assign any "engineering job" to
> anybody with an "engineering degree". I think there may have been a time
> that applied but it was not in my lifetime. SI is the realm of analog
> effects but too many people without an appreciation for anything analog have
> been assigned to do jobs in this area. That is a fault of our institutions
> of higher education and the MBA mindset. Digital was all that was taught
> for years. Students come out of school who have touched a couple of digital
> CAD tools and they think they are ready to tackle all problems. Somewhere
> down the line they get bit by a transmission line or a PDS. The good ones
> get curious and learn about them. Too many find a quick band aide. Don't
> get me started on MBAs.
>
> I have not followed this thread in detail, I used the Delete button quickly
> in most cases. I have looked at responses from people I know and respect
> who contribute to this list. I do learn a lot from them.
>
> Many of the responses on this list are telling the questioner to learn to
> fish. Buy the tools you are going to use (I'm amazed I had to say that),
> learn how to use them, learn everything you can about analog effects and
> most importantly, learn to apply what you have learned.
>
> Tom Dagostino
> Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC
> 503-430-1065
> tom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> www.teraspeed.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Chris Cheng
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 4:28 PM
> To: 'si_monkey2@xxxxxxxxx'; MikonCons@xxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Proper use of the Si-List
>
>
> Sitar,
> I'm just a low life engineer getting paid just above minimum wage and a few
> t-shirts. I don't have a Ph.D nor do I have three times the client waiting
> for me to help them. But I never use my personal email account in here
> because I am proud of what I do and there is nothing to hide about where I
> come from.
> Perphaps if you care to share who your current employer is and something
> about your background we can have a better understand why you think the way
> you react.
> As for the comment about high school physics, I actually learn Maxwell and
> telegrapher equations in high school so there are certain places on earth
> where your discussion falls into high school physics.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sitar Moniker [mailto:si_monkey2@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 8:59 AM
> To: MikonCons@xxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Proper use of the Si-List
>
>
> I am new to this list. After these posts, I thought the forum is designed to
> serve the interests of successful consultants and I am at a wrong party. I
> was about to unsubscribe. But, subsequent posts tell me otherwise and it is
> OK to ask questions that are not "give me a basic education" type. Don't ask
> for IP also.
>
> Let us see if the Open Termination questions and follow-up questions I asked
> fit into these categories. Obviously, they are not asking for IP because
> nobody indicated as such. I don't think they are "give me a basic education"
> type either. How the fields behave at the open ended line interface with
> free space before and after reflection is not high school physics. I know
> this because I have a high school diploma.
>
> What I would like to see is how this field behavior (which is not addressed
> so far) can be explained using rubber bands and weights and conservation of
> momentum. I would really appreciate if you or others explain this and
> convince me that these questions deserve to be ignored by the SI elite.
>
> MikonCons@xxxxxxx wrote:
> Beautifully said, Ed.
>
> I have not particpated in the SI forum for some time (while biting my tongue
>
> to keep my opinions to myself) because of the plethora of "give me a basic
> education" type questions, as well as some comments I have not agreed with.
> Although my requests for consulting support has tripled over the last couple
> of
> months, I know of eight other competent consultants scratchin the gravel
> beds for work.
>
> Mike
> Michael L. Conn
> Owner/Principal Consultant
> Mikon Consulting
>
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