[SI-LIST] Re: Prepreg dielectric constant and thickness: what actual values to use?
- From: Scott McMorrow <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: Marc Battyani <marc.battyani@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 09:33:19 -0400
Marc
The problem is one of volume displacement. Prepreg flows and fills in
the space between traces on a copper layer. So, the final thickness of
a layer of one or multiple prepreg sheets is variable. For example, if
prepreg is placed between two solid ground planes, there is nothing to
fill, therefore no change in thickness - except for the small amount of
material that is squeezed out the edges of the board during the press
process.
If prepreg is placed between a ground plane and a trace layer, then
there will be no filling on the solid ground plane layer, but there will
be filling of the space between the traces on the trace layer.
Thickness will be dependent upon the volume change in material that
flows in between the traces, and the density of traces in any area of
the board. If prepreg is placed between two trace layers, then more of
the material will flow, decreasing the spacing even further.
Average Er is just that, an average of the two materials. A trace will
see an average of the two dielectric constants of the prepreg material
above and/or below it. Use a simple average for the volume.
best regards,
Scott
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Marc Battyani wrote:
> Hi,
> When you specify a stackup the thicknesses of the cores are well defined but
> the for the prepreg layers it's less obvious. So when using one or several
> prepreg sheets do you just use and add the basic thicknesses or is there a
> correction to make?
>
> For the dielectric constant of those materials, when you have 4.3-4.5 @ 1MHz
> and 3.8-4.0 @ 1GHz what value should we use as a basis for the simulations
> for 125MHz HSTL or 200MHz SSTL for instance?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Marc
>
>
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