[SI-LIST] Re: Preparing S-Parameters for Simulation
- From: Scott McMorrow <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: wolfgang.maichen@xxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:53:35 -0500
Quite true. Nice guys. Very good software!
wolfgang.maichen@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Incidentally, the people behind the IdEM are more or less the same as the
> authors in the paper Yuriy cited in his reply. Small world :-)
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> Hi Wolfgang,
> Thanks for the link. I haven?t heard of IdEM before but it does look like
> a good tool that I will have to check out.
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> Best,
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> Hi Timothy,
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> you may want to check out the IdEM tool (
> http://www.idemworks.com/index.htm) - they put a lot of effort into
> ensuring passivity and causality of their input data before creating any
> macromodels.
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> Hi,
> I am working on a tutorial for the next issue of XrossTalk Magazine about
> getting S-Parameter models ready for simulation. I see a lot of
> S-Parameter
> models from lab measurements and simulation tools that have a lot of
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> issues (causality and passivity) and have to do a lot of clean up to make
> them suitable for simulation. I have my own bag of tricks I use as well as
> some good books on S-Parameter theory and application notes but I would
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> to hear from other people what their approaches are or some good
> resources.
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> For some particular specifics review the list below:
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> . What considerations should go into setting up a simulation tool
> to
> extract an S-Parameter model? (bandwidth to be used, number of points,
> importance of linear spacing of points, starting at DC, etc)
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> . A lot of tools will automatically "fix" causal and passivity
> issues or enforce them. What's the pros and cons for this? What do
> engineers
> need to look out for when they do this?
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> . What's the best way to clean up a lab measured S-Parameter model
> with poor resolution?
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> . What type of quality checks should you perform on an S-Parameter
> model before simulating? (what do you look for in the S21 plots, do you
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> smith charts, ect?)
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> Thanks for any and all suggestions and links.
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> Timothy Coyle
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> Editor In Chief
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> XrossTalk Magazine
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> 405 Western Ave #430
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> Fax: 207.510.8099
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> Email: tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> http://www.xrosstalkmag.com <http://www.xrosstalkmag.com/>
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