In a recent discussion with our layout house, they mentioned that they had recently had some training that stated that the return currents can begin to return beneath the trace (path of least inductance) at frequencies in the kHz range. I am in the process of trying to get access to some of that literature to better understand the parameters of the discussion including the edge rate. Has anybody else heard this and have any literature to share (or links to it)? Usually, the return current is stated to follow the path of least resistance at "low frequencies" (including in the Dr.Johnson seminar notes) but I don't recall really reading anything about where the crossover occurs. -Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20 > [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darshan Mehta > Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 10:01 AM > To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [SI-LIST] Power and Ground Plane area >=20 >=20 > Hello Everybody, >=20 > I was reading one of the IEEE paper on topic "EMC Analysis"=20 > by Dr. Tom Van. He says that Return current takes the least=20 > impedance path. If the signal speed is 1 KHz, there is no=20 > need of Power or Ground Plane because even if you have Power=20 > Plane, the return current will not effectively utilize the=20 > plane. So my question is, how we should decide at what signal=20 > speed we should use Plane area for Power and Ground. Is there=20 > is any specific formula for that. Thanks. >=20 > Best Regards >=20 >=20 > Darshan Mehta >=20 > =20 >=20 >=20 > =09 > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today!=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field >=20 > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to:=20 > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list >=20 > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field >=20 > List FAQ wiki page is located at: > http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ >=20 > List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.org >=20 > List archives are viewable at: =20 > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > =20 >=20 >=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu