I'm approaching a 300MHz RLDRAM design at the moment and SI is back on my radar. That's why what I saw on a high-performance motherboard such as this one caught my attention. -Martin -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Charles Grasso Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 6:20 PM To: martin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Power Supply Distribution/Filtering/Decoupling Guide Thanks for the info Martin. I learn more from things that work - but shouldn't.!! -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Martin Euredjian Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 5:08 PM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Power Supply Distribution/Filtering/Decoupling Guide So... I just got one of the new Intel D875PBZ motherboards (3.6GHz, 800MHz FSB, etc.). In looking at it, one of the things that caught my eye immediatlely was wasn't there. I was expecting lots of decoupling capacitors, particularly surrounding certain chips. To my surprise, the design has absolutely no components on the bottom and an (appartent) handful of decouplers on the top layer. With all the talk and controversy on this forum, application notes, papers and books describing gargantuan capacitor trees as a requirement for good signal integrity, reduce RFI, etc. it's always been a surprise to run across product after product that does not seem to fit the proposed model very well. Am I missing something fundamental here? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Martin Euredjian eCinema Systems, Inc. voice: 661-305-9320 fax: 661-775-4876 martin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ecinema@xxxxxxxx www.ecinemasys.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu