On the issue of where the place your capacitors, a statement was made that a paper from UMR proved that placement doesn't matter and a demand for experimental evidence was also made. As is so often the case, however, there is a qualifier. UMR showed that capacitor placement is not critical only to planes with a spacing of 10mils or less. Perhaps more recent data might help. Quote from the conclusion from a UMR paper published in the proceedings of the Y2K EMC Symposium, Washington DC. Paper:Experimental Evaluation of Power Bus Decoupling on a 4-layer PCB Authors: Chen,Xu, Hubing,Drewinak, VanDoren,Dubroff ISBN: 0-7803-5677-2 Conclusion:the measured data in this paper demonstrates power bus decoupling in a 4-layer PCB as a function of capacitor location. mutual inductance plays an important role in power bus decoupling above the parallel resonant frequencies of high-frequency decoupling capacitors. When the decoupling capacitors and the IC are in close proximity, mutual inductance between their vias encourages the active device to draw most of the transient switching current from the nearest decoupling capacitor when switching. Moving the decoupling capacitor closer to the active device increases the effectiveness of the power bus decoupling. Therefore, in 4-layer boards that don't have closely spaced power/ground pairs, it is important to locate the decoupling caps near the ICs. Decoupling is maximized when the capacitor via that draws current from the farthest plane is located next to the IC power or ground via that draws current from the farthest plane. So placement DOES matter (apparently) for "high" impedance power planes. And is less critical for "low" impedance power planes. Best Regards Charles Grasso ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu