Dear Partha, As you indicated, with a phase detector all one knows is the phase error. Whether that is a voltage resulting from pulse width modulation or a voltage resulting from charge pumps, that is all you know. In either case, if the frequencies are way off, you get a sinusoidal varying voltage whose average voltage is zero (give or take the offset.) This gives you no information as to which way to move the VCO. That is why a straight phase detector has a limited acquisition range; a PLL based on a phase detector must be able to "catch" the frequency during a fraction of a beat period. On the other hand, a phase-frequency detector gives you information about which of the two frequencies is higher. When the two frequencies are way off, the output voltage, however created, will have a real dc content indicating which way the VCO should move to get closer. As the two frequencies get closer together, the PFD reverts to being a phase detector, so you can phase-lock the loop. The simplest way of thinking of a PFD is to imagine a two bit up-down counter. Every time you get a reference pulse, the counter moves one way (let's say up), and every time you get a VCO pulse, the counter moves the other way (call this down.) This counter also saturates at 00 and 11 so that if the counter is 00 and you get a VCO pulse, the counter will remain at 00 or if the counter is 11 and you get a reference pulse, the counter will remain at 11. The PFD output is the more significant bit. If you get two reference pulses in a row, the VCO is too slow and you want to speed it up. Since the counter now oscillates between 10 or 11, and the MSB is a solid 1. Thus, the VCO is driven to a higher frequency. Once the VCO gets high enough (and actually just a bit too high,) there will be two VCO pulses in a row, and the counter will settle into a pattern between 01 and 10. Since the MSB is now oscillating, you have the equivalent of an XOR output between the two signals, i.e., a classic phase detector. Hope that this helps. Regards, Paul ____________________ Parthasarathy Sampath wrote: > Hi All, > Whats the difference between Phase detector and > Phase/Freq Detector? > > Why is PFD advantageous to PF? > - Normally PF has low acquisition range limited by > usage of Low Pass Filter. In PFD we use charge pump > instead of LPF. Is that the main reason? > > Thanks in Advance, > > Regards, > Partha! > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > > -- Paul Levin Senior Principal Engineer Xyratex Storage Systems ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu