One thing I've noticed with new CMOS drivers is that the slew rate is usually much higher than the PCI spec allows. I measured an IBIS model for a newer processor with a PCI interface that was 8x faster than the fastest allowable PCI slew rate. (I told them about this, they responded that they never claimed to be PCI compliant.) These faster edges will eat away at timing and noise margins. The other concern is the driver should be a relatively weak. (this is also defined in the spec.) Jim Peterson Honeywell -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of todd t Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 6:24 AM To: yinhongcheng Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: PCI IO buffer problem? most likely the PCI specific I/O would include additional voltage clamps. there may be other differentiating items, but that would be the most significant. ciao, -todd t On Sep 4, 2008, at 4:36 AM, yinhongcheng <yinhc@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi, All, > Some vendor or foundry provides special PCI(33Mhz or 66Mhz) IO > buffer in their IO buffer > library during ASIC design,but some not. > > So I want to know what is the difference between common CMOS > logic IO and special PCI IO, if > we can use commom IO buffer replace special PCI buffer during ASIC > design?if do so, what factor > (such as Hot-plugging and so on) should be take into account? thanks! > > > > > Best Regards > HongchengYin > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.net > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu