Kumaran, everyone is free to their interpretation of the facts. I believe mine to be reasoned and not reckless as you cast them. I have offered Kedar every opportunity to explain the seemingly inexplicable. He has returned with evasion. Interpret it as you will. Steve. At 10:39 AM 5/18/2006, Kumaran K wrote: >Gentlemen, we are in a distinguished discussion forum and not a street melee. > >Steve, I think you need some lessons on communication skills. The >way you are trying to mud-sling repeatedly at such a reputed >organisation as Patni is totally unwarranted. Please keep your >personal opinions to yourself. > >If you have a burning desire to know the legality behind Kedar's >work, request him and try to find out. You have no right to straight >away start slandering and accuse such a prestigious company of >stealing. Do have any idea of Patni's history and credentials??? >This is blantant character assasination (of Kedar) and defamation >(of Patni). I wonder whether you could be sued for this!! > >As Kedar mentioned, if he was really involved in illegal work, dont >you think he would be smart enough to not disclose it in such a >public forum???? Come on, give it some thought... > >I am also into service business and I can very well understand how >such a need for reverse engineering can occur when you are >supporting legacy products where documentation is minimal or almost nil. > >Really disappointing to see your mails. You are really potraying a >very bad image of yourself and your company. > >The least you can do is apologize. > >Disappointed, >Kumaran > > >-----Original Message----- >From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >[<mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >On Behalf Of steve weir >Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 7:06 PM >To: kedar.apte@xxxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Cc: patni-usa@xxxxxxxxx >Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: PCB Reverse Engineering > >Kedar, why do you bother with such evasion? > >If your motives are innocent, then you can explain your >circumstances. If you are not offended and your motives are innocent >you favor the request for an explanation. But, you don't. > >Is it the policy of your company to steal the property of others? > >Steve. > > >At 06:16 AM 5/18/2006, Kedar P Apte wrote: > > >Hi Steve, > > > >Hi Steve, > > > >I am not at all feeling offended. > > > >1. If I was doing this kind of business I wouldn't be asking the > >Question this much straight. > >2. I won't mind sharing the design rights with you people if time comes. > >3. I had posted this question with my real name and company ID I think > >that is authentic enough to start with. > >4. I wanted atleast some info about whether this can be done or not. > >5. But of course I can understand your awareness and so the reply. > > > >Regards, > >Kedar > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: steve weir [<mailto:weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx>mailto:weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx] > >Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 6:17 PM > >To: kedar.apte@xxxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >Subject: Re: [SI-LIST] Re: PCB Reverse Engineering > > > > > >Kedar if you expected the question then: > > > >1. You should not be offended that I asked it and 2. If your motives > >are innocent you should have explained how it is that you have only a > >board, no documentation or any kind but the rights to the design. > > > >Steve. > >At 05:22 AM 5/18/2006, Kedar P Apte wrote: > > >Hi Steve, > > >I was expecting this Question - never mind I am not in that business > > >- I think this answer is quiet straight forward and simple to > > >understand. > > > > > > > > >Regards, > > >Kedar > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >[<mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>mailto:si-list-bounce@freel > ists.org]On Behalf Of steve weir > > >Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:31 PM > > >To: kedar.apte@xxxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: PCB Reverse Engineering > > > > > > > > >Are you asking for help finding tools so you can steal someone else' > > >design? 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