[SI-LIST] Re: OUTPUT IMPEDANCE CALCULATION [IBIS]
- From: "Benny Yan" <bennyzhi@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: james.f.peterson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 08:10:01 +0800
Eric Bogatin mentioned a method in his book<Signal Integrity:Simplified>.
Benny Yan
On 9/19/06, Peterson, James F (EHCOE) <james.f.peterson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
>
> Another method to establish the source impedance (Zs) of a driver from
> an IBIS model is in a simulation (still using Ohms law):
>
> Create a circuit with the ibis model driving a very long transmission
> line (12 inches) with a known trace impedance (Zo). Drive the line both
> high and low and observe the porch in the waveform. The porch is caused
> by the ratio of Zs and Zo. Zs can be solved by rearranging this very
> familiar equation :
>
> Vout =3D Vin * (Zo/(Zo+Zs)) ...solve for Zs, Vout is Vporch and Vin is =
> the
> total voltage swing
>
> The porch will last as long as 2x the propagation time of the T-line.
>
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> Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: OUTPUT IMPEDANCE CALCULATION [IBIS]
>
> Carlos
>
> Ohms law (Z=3D V/I). You have a V/I curve at min/typ/max device =
> corners.
>
>
> regards,
>
> Scott
>
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> Carlos Toro wrote:
> > Hello members of the SI list.
> > Does anyone has experience with calculating the output impedance of a=20
> > microcontroller pin given its IBIS model?.
> >
> > I don't have access to the silicon yet, just the IBIS for now. I=20
> > intend to match impedances of critical PCB traces of our design.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> >
> > =20
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