> Patrick/Aubrey, > > I am in a similar position to yourself. Your argument is well put. Unfortunately, > any publicly listed company is only after one thing, profit. That is the capitalist > world we live in. It is not a world I particulary like, but its the best we have. As I > see it the 1st world ecomonies will be employing product management in their > respective countries with the Engineering in the 2nd world countries and production > going to 3rd world countries. > > Regards > Steve Mitchell > GullWing Ltd ----- Original Message ----- From: <Aubrey_Sparkman@xxxxxxxx> To: <rsefton@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 5:02 PM Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: [OT] Offshore engineering > Like Robert, I have usually been a free-market person. And Patrick's > comments on helping others get started sound good. Patrick also makes the > good point of exporting jobs to the extend of loosing that skill in the home > country, no matter whether the home country is US, France, or other. So, > what's the right thing to do? > I fully support collaboration where both parties grow and learn together. > But I have a problem with being asked to train my replacement in a > developing country. As far as I can tell, my only defense is to keep > learning and stay on the bleeding edge. What other options do I have? > > Aubrey Sparkman > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Robert Sefton [mailto:rsefton@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 10:24 AM > > To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: [OT] Offshore engineering > > > > > > I enthusiastically agree that this is a relevant and very interesting > > topic. I wish more people would chime in because I don't have a good > > feel yet for where the majority stands on it. There was a > > long thread on > > this same topic on the [pcdlist] several weeks ago, and the PCB layout > > community is downright scared about the offshore trend in > > that industry. > > > > My opinion: I have almost blind faith in the free market as > > the ultimate > > equalizer. In the long term the market will decide the most efficient > > model for each phase of product development, and it may be > > that the most > > efficient model right now is cheap foreign engineers. Could > > be a painful > > next couple of decades for engineers in the U.S., but I also > > have almost > > blind faith that the U.S. has the closest thing on this > > planet to a true > > free market and will always rise to the top eventually. I say let the > > market rule. > > > > Robert > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Zabinski, Patrick J." <zabinski.patrick@xxxxxxxx> > > To: <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 5:22 AM > > Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: [OT] Offshore engineering > > > > > > > > > > Martin, > > > > > > Although not necessarily a technical topic, I do believe > > > the topic is relevant to this forum (albeit we should > > > constrain such discussions to a minimum). > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from si-list: > > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > > > For help: > > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > > List technical documents are available at: > > http:/www.si-list.org > > > > List archives are viewable at: > > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > > or at our remote archives: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > List technical documents are available at: > http:/www.si-list.org > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http:/www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu