[SI-LIST] Re: Mentor Hyperlinx ?

 
I find hyperlynx very easy to use also, in fact I like it so much I wrote
several utilities to help me work with the hyperlynx suite.    My software
includes drawing several senerios and inport it's output directly into the
hyperlynx simulation engine.    I call my software NetView Planner.   You
don't have to have hyperlynx to use it but it was designed to do so.   The
software is over two years old.    Several companies have been using this
software for over a year now....Mentor does not support any of this
software,fyi......Anyway check it out on the web at the address below:   If
you have any questions please call me.




Keith Kowal 781-593-0199 epd2001usa@xxxxxxxxxxx[1] www.nvplanner.com[2]  
>From: "David Kaiser" >Reply-To: david.kaiser@xxxxxxxxxx >To: , >Subject:
[SI-LIST] Re: Mentor Hyperlinx ? >Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 15:34:10 -0600
>>>Wehave both Hyperlynx Linesim with Crosstalk 7.0 as well as the GHz=
>option. Hyperlynx is actually relatively inexpensive compared to other=
>tools such as ICX. It is very easy to use and they have pretty good=
>support (I would suggest buying the tech support with any Mentor tool) The=
>biggest trick is getting good IBIS models from the device vendors, but=
>this is getting better and better and time goes on. They can usually be=
>downloaded from the vendors web site. >>Hyperlynx allows us to use our
boardstackup to do very quick "what-if"= >simulations for overshoot,
ringback, monotonicity, Xtalk, etc. You can= >come up to speed on the tool
injust a few hours. You may also need to= >come up to speed on the
fundamentals of IBIS models syntax, but this tool= >comes with an easy to
useIBIS editor and parser as well as a online= >document on the IBIS
specificatons.=20 >>As for the GHz option, this allows lossy simulations
(which is sometimes= >necessay when simulating very fast edge rates) as well
as the ability to= >work with spice models (but we haven't tapped much into
the spice= >interface yet). >>I would strongly recommend this tool if you
canafford it, as least the= >Linesime w/crosstalk if not the GHz option.
>>David Kaiser >4 McDATA Pkwy. >Broomfield, CO 80021 >(720) 558-4431
>david.kaiser@xxxxxxxxxx >>>-----Original Message----- >From: Joel Brown
[mailto:joel@xxxxxxxxxx] >Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 1:29 PM >To:
si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [SI-LIST] Mentor Hyperlinx ? >>>I have been
looking at Mentor Hyperlinx since we need some signal >integrity tools for
PCB layout. We had a demo from their local sales >office and it looks pretty
good. It is very expensive and we are a small >company without a lot of
cash,but I feel we need some signal integrity >tools since we are starting
todo high speed designs (DVI, USB 2.0 and >SATA). Also we tend to run
signalsthrough a long path consisting of >multiple boards, connectors and
cables. I feel a tool like this would >help to identify problems that we
would otherwise not recognize until a >marginal product failed in the field.
They also have a GHz which adds a >lot to the price, which Mentor says is
required for designs above 10 >GHz. All of our designs are 1.5 GHz or less
fundamental frequency, so I >am not sure if we need to spend the extra money
on the GHz option. I >would appreciate any feedback from people who have
usedHyperlinx and >suggestions of lower cost alternatives. >=20 >Joel Brown
>VP Engineering >Z Microsystems, Inc. >>=20
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