Since nobody else has mentioned it, Dr. Howie Johnson at one time performed a Metastability lab demo in his class that was pretty cool. It helped send home the importance of setup and hold requirements. Regards, Bob=20 Robert Haller Enterasys Networks Core Routing - Hardware Phone: 978-684-1340=20 FAX: 978-684-1499 -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hal Murray Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 3:44 AM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: hmurray@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: METASTABILITY=20 > a good point : a quick look for "metastability" in the index of my > half-dozen SI books didn't get many hits.=20 ~15 years ago, when I was browsing for general digital logic books, I used=20 Metastability as my test case. When I saw a book that looked interesting, I=20 would open it to the index and look for Metastability. (This was long before=20 Amazon, so you could find books in bookstores where you could touch them.) This was an amazingly quick way to evaluate a book. First, you got to check=20 the index which I consider to be important. If I didn't find anything then I=20 was suspicious. If I did, then I would go check out that section. I think I=20 understand Metastability so it doesn't take long to find out if the author=20 says something sensible. Two books in my collection have good sections on Metastability: High-Speed Digital Design: A Handbook of Black Magic Howard Johnson and Martin Graham Digital Design: Principles and Practices John F. Wakerly My opinions: Anybody interested in SI should have a copy of "Black Magic". I like the=20 style. Every time I open it to look up something I get suckered in just rereading a section I've already read many times. Wakerly is now up to the 4th edition (2005). Mine is a couple back. I still=20 learn something every time I open it. I wish I had a copy many many years=20 ago. Both are a bit old, mostly using MSI (DIPs) as examples. But the ideas=20 haven't changed. I may be biased since I did a lot of work with MSI and I=20 can easily relate to their examples. --=20 The suespammers.org mail server is located in California. So are all my other mailboxes. Please do not send unsolicited bulk e-mail or unsolicited commercial e-mail to my suespammers.org address or any of my other addresses. These are my opinions, not necessarily my employer's. I hate spam. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: =20 //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu