Hi; I think your formula is wrong tan d =3D ( conductivity + omega * dielectric loss constant)/(Omega * permittivity) Justin Tabatchnick Intel , Sacramento -----Original Message----- From: atifshamimkhan [mailto:ashamim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20 Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 11:58 AM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Loss tangent calculation Hi I am designing an antenna on Si substrate at 24 GHz.I want to calculate the Loss tangent for this substrate .I have the following info Resistivity =3D 300 ohm-cm (for silicon substrate ) I calculate it as follows: conductivity =3D 1/ resitivity Also loss tangent (Tan d)=3D conductivity / (epsilon * 2 *pi * f ) where Epsilon (r) for silicon is 12 and f is 24 GHz.In this way I get =20 Tan d =3D 0.25=20 I dont know whether this calculation is right or not.My question is if this is not the right way then how can I calculate the Loss tangent from resistivity only and secondly if this is right then why the loss tangent decreases with the increase in fequency. Thanks=20 Atif ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: =20 //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages=20 Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu