[SI-LIST] Re: Job Opening at Wipro Technologies - an opinion
- From: "Vadim Heyfitch" <heyfitch@xxxxxxxx>
- To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:00:51 -0700
I find it particularly interesting how few subscribes of this list have
voiced their opinion on this post - coming on either side on the argument.
Hardly anyone in Silicon Valley I've spoken with is indifferent on this
subject.
Whether the reluctance to speak up your mind is a sign of fear or
desperation, it only corroborates agathon's statement about the U.S. decline
as a technological superpower, as well as a functioning democracy (my own
conjecture). Engineers have no power/leverage in the U.S. Congress -
corporations do. Engineers seem to have resigned to this fact and most just
hope that his/her job will be the last to be axed and moved off-shore... and
if we keep quiet we may be rewarded for "good behavior" by a few more
month(?) or years (?) of employment. And so we march to the gallows, in
silence, hectically calculating what an alternative career path might we
find available (open a coffee shop?, a restaurant?, teach high school math?,
import kitchen cabinets from China, else?)
Should there be more wars for natural resources - oil/gas/etc - the U.S.
will be just one of several superpowers - not THE superpower. When this time
comes, which may happen much sooner than we wish, - the U.S. will find
itself imperiled by inability of Northrop-Grumman, Lockheed-Martin,
Raytheon, and likes to find and hire quality engineers. Unfortunately, the
U.S. gov does not get it; instead, in its myopic wisdom, it bows to the
pressures from corporation, who fund election campaigns of our elected
officials.
To Ray: I know this topic falls outside of the boundaries of a purely
technical discussion. However, it's quite relevant/interesting to a good
number of the list membership - all those in the U.S. for sure. After all,
we do tolerate trivial /banal questions from the new members - mostly from
India and China - and replies from numerous U.S. consultants , who use the
list for self-promotion and contract solicitation. So we should be as
tolerant of some non-technical yet relevant to the membership discussions as
well.
Vadim
*agathon <hreidmarkailen@xxxxxxxxx>* wrote:
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 19:08:10 -0700
From: agathon <hreidmarkailen@xxxxxxxxx>
To: praveen.srikantaiah@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: ***[Possible UCE]*** [SI-LIST] Re: Job Opening at Wipro
Technologies
CC: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
This is interesting. Let's assume this job posting is real.
After years of displacing U.S. citizens via fraudulent use of H-1B _and_ L-1
visas, Wipro has the cajones to post, right in our face, an
offer of employment in India. No quantity of rupees could compensate.
Now, some obvious questions arise.
What U.S. citizen are they expecting to hire? If they don't expect to, as
anyone can subscribe to the si-list, then what non-U.S. citizen from what
country would want such a job location? No, the U.S. - as we know - is a
declining place, so suddenly not producing enough engineers and other
professionals, it's like the bubonic plague by God, for which India and
China had to come to the rescue. But, I don't think your typical U.S.
citizen engineer would take very well to the corruption over there and stark
class society.
So, why is Wipro having an issue filling the job with the 'superior' non-U.S
.
citizen worker?
Hmmm... possibly is the targeted candidate Indian? Might they be in the
U.S.? Are there no direct means within India to find such a person?
Evidently not. And evidently a shortage exists within Wipro and wherever
their tentacles reach. Wait, I thought - as the Indian (and U.S.,
unfortunately) press trumpet - the Indian engineer is so much better and
they produce masses of them? What's the problem finding an Indian engineer
who also knows a little physics? Gee whiz. So sad.
I've just heard (BBC I think) that U.S. companies are closing Indian
operations. And, the Indian edge is decreasing due to costs. So, don't
offer the weak crap that it's demand that's causing the Wipro posting.
Intel is going to Vietnam, instead. Yep, the race to the bottom. Even the
Indians might actually catch a clue sometime soon. Americans? No; too deep
in sleep. I have NEVER met an H-1B/L-1 who could contribute to any SI
effort and, at Intel on one occasion, only contributed to negative
productivity.
More likely, Wipro and the like are starting to retrench and build the home
base. Especially since the H-1B cap wasn't raised. The rampant fraud in
India has drained off alot of the H-1B slots, leaving Wipro high and dry.
Well, waddya know, the law of supply and demand does exist. Just not in the
usual way. Yee ha!!
"Fraudsters walk away with H1B visas!"
http://seeker.dice.com/olc/thread.jspa?threadID=2421&tstart=0
"Glen Keiser, Consular Section Chief, US Consulate, Mumbai said, "We have
found to our regret that Hyderabad and Bangalore are centres of H1B visa
fraud and that it is not difficult to walk into an operation and someone
rather forthrightly tell you that they can produce anything to appear to
qualify for an H1B visa...". The link at the above link has Indian tv video
describing Wipro's Woes.
The 5% of their GDP that is tech exports (incl. services) is not growing as
in the past and the nervousness doth rear its ugly head. Plus, the only way
to exploit the L-1 visa is to have personnel employed at a "home base",
ready for transfer to the U.S. - without any protections for U.S. citizens
whatsoever (not even any H-1B fig leaf protection).
So, this is a rich thought... Like my mom always said, "the truth will
out". And it cometh right quick. So I say India should legislate a US-1
visa whereby we foreigners may be imported to save the ship. At an
appropriate premium, of course. But, that might have to wait until AFTER
our Congress has devolved us further, maybe into 3rd World status.
Obviously, since India is apparently incapable of producing someone skilled
enough, Wipro is counting on past H-1B exploitation of Indians & Americans
having produced someone who can do this work from their U.S. experience
_and_ who now wants to work in Bangalore, ready to continue taking work from
U.S. citizens, or others, in their own country. That takes balls. And a
U.S. Congress bought and paid for.
On 6/29/07, praveen.srikantaiah@xxxxxxxxx
wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Wipro Technologies' SI group is looking for an SI engineer with around 10
> years of experience. The job is based out of Bangalore, India. Below is
the
> job description. If interested email me.
>
> Regards,
> Praveen
>
>
> Roles & Responsibilities
> PCB stack-up definition, PCB material selection, and layer assignment as
> per Signal Integrity / Cross talk requirements.
> Do pre-layout and post-layout signal Integrity analysis for various
> boards.
> Review analysis results and all checks as per guidelines needed by Wipro
> and client specifications.
> Review Signal quality measurement results and tune models/ methodology
> accordingly.
> Develop/Enhance/Update methodology based on advancements in Signal
> Integrity / Design complexity. Designs will be in various domains like
> Telecom, Computing, Embedded, Automotive, Consumer Electronics etc.
> Skills, Job Requirements
>
> Hands on experience in execution of high speed signal integrity analysis
> and cross talk analysis on High frequency boards involving different types
> of models - IBIS, Spice, SLM/MLM/ICM.
>
> Detailed experience with multiple tools like Spectraquest, Hyperlynx,
> Hspice, ICX etc. required.
> Experience in doing IBIS model validation, Signal Integrity Analysis of
> PCI express, XAUI or similar interfaces is a must.
> Experience in doing multi board simulations is an added advantage.
> Must have experience in High Speed/ Gigabit speed Signal Quality
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