Ray - for what its worth - you have my full support. ________________________________ From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Ray Anderson Sent: Thu 7/5/2007 10:22 AM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: Ray Anderson Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Job Opening at Wipro Technologies agathon wrote: --------------------------------------------------------------- From: agathon [mailto:hreidmarkailen@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thu 7/5/2007 7:38 AM To: Praveen Srikantaiah (WT01 - TES-Transport Infrastructure) Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [SI-LIST] Job Opening at Wipro Technologies This is interesting. Let's assume this job posting is real. =20 After years of displacing U.S. citizens via fraudulent use of H-1B _and_ L-1 visas, Wipro has the cajones to post, right in our face, an=20 offer of employment in India. No quantity of rupees could compensate. =20 Now, some obvious questions arise. =20 ... ... Remaining non-si-list appropriate content deleted ... =09 ... --------------------------------------------------------------------- Si-list: It has been quite some time since I've needed to step in as 'net-cop' in my roll as si-list administrator. However the message posted this morning has prompted me to do so. I am well aware of the issues involved with US engineering jobs moving offshore to locations where companies can hire engineering talent at much less cost than they can here in the US. However, as others have pointed out already this morning, the purpose of si-list is to foster technical interchange amongst SI professionals and, to a much lesser extent, to allow occasional job postings that various members of the list readership may find interest in. The list subscriber who posted his views on Wipro's recent jobs posting went off the deep end in my opinion with regards to what is allowable content for si-list. This morning's poster is certainly entitled to his opinion and his right to express it. There are numerous venues where this would be absolutely acceptable content, however, si-list isn't one of them.=20 I am remaining neutral on the content of his posting, neither expressing concurrence nor disagreement with the message's content. I am going to reiterate that si-list's purpose is primarily for rational technical discussion of SI related technical topics. There are currently something like 4000+ subscribers to si-list worldwide. As you can imagine they hail from all corners of the globe and represent a diverse set of political viewpoints. As si-list administrator I would request all participants to check their non-technical views at 'the door' when utilizing si-list. If you have the need and desire to express those views please find an alternate venue. Yes, I know there are some non-tech si related topics that may be appropriate for public discussion. Use your good judgement before posting. While I am in the 'si-list net-cop' mode I'd like to comment on one other thing that doesn't concern this morning's post on offshore postings. The topic is one of personal verbal attacks on members one may disagree with. Over the past several months there have been a number of cases where certain posters have made various ad-hominem attacks on the intelligence and integrity of other list members purely because of a technical disagreement. In the future I'd request that this sort of behavior not take place on si-list. It is counter-productive to good technical discussions and offensive to all. Anyway, enough of the above. Back to the tech discussions. Ray Anderson Si-list admin =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu