[SI-LIST] Re: Inexpensive SI software
- From: Dave Pollum <david.pollum@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 23:28:01 -0500
All:
It doesn't have to be HyperLynx ;) It could be some other product. I don't
know anything about
Hspice, and at $12K, I can't afford it. BTW, does anyone know what Altium's
Designer product's SI
module is like.
-Dave Pollum
Joel Brown wrote:
> Although we have Hyperlynx, I find myself using Hspice instead.
> The drawback is you have to manually enter models in a text file but it has
> a lot of flexibility. I find Hyperlynx very clumsy when it comes to using
> different types of models such as IBIS, Hspice, RGLC, etc.
> I think Hspice costs around $12K. Often IC vendors can only provide Hspice
> models and then you have no choice anyway.
>
>
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>
> I've been doing some freelance PCB layout using a low cost PCB CAD software
> (Cadsoft's EAGLE). I'm
> getting into situations designing denser 4 layer boards where it would handy
> to use an SI tool. I'm
> concerned about rise/fall times of 1 - 2 ns or faster signals, crosstalk,
> the effects of long
> traces, and switching layers (top to bottom), etc. I've download the
> HyperLynx demo (BoardSim &
> LineSIM), and it looks really cool. But I can't actually use the demo to
> anything real. And I
> suspect I can't afford it. I'd like to spend no more than $4K(USD). As an
> alternative, I've
> considered buying Altium's Designer software ($4K) that claims to have
> built-in SI abilities. Are
> Altium's SI features any good?
>
> Suggestions, anyone?
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