Dear Student, (at least this one self declared) Is your Dad named Rick? The cost of an education is very dear to those of us gray before our time due to the effort to find the answers to your question. However, the information is available freely on the internet and other sources, we put it there. And as you have already found, there is conflicting opinions on what counts and how to implement it. As a masters student, I expect one of your requirements is a demonstrated ability to use the internal gray matter. A hint, apply AC circuits 101 and Intro to Fields and Waves liberally to the conflicting information, mix throughly with gray matter, rinse and repeat. Companies pay large sums of money to consultants and engineers to provide just those answers. Randolph Voorhies <voorhies@xxxxxxx> wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm brand new not just to this list, but to the world of PCB production in general. I'm currently a masters student at USC in robotics and have been producing some relatively simple PCBs for the past few months using Eagle. I'm now working on a fairly complex project that involves creating a custom baseboard for an XTX module (xtx-standard.org). My formal training is in digital electronics, computer architecture, and computer science, so when it comes to signal integrity I'm pretty much at a loss. Does anyone know where to find specific routing guidlines for differential pair lines such as firewire and ethernet? I have read all sorts of conflicting advice (differential impedence is crucial vs. differential impedence couldn't matter less, etc..), and have had a very difficult time finding exact numbers for trace spacing/individual trace impedence and so on. If anyone with experience has any advice that has worked for them it would be very very very much appreciated. Thanks so much, Rand Voorhies ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu --------------------------------- Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu