[SI-LIST] Re: IBIS Model Quality (or lack thereof)
- From: Kim Helliwell <kimgh@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: twester@xxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 13:17:35 -0800
It's actually worse than you make out.
I've had IBIS models that were not even
run through the Golden Parser and cleared of errors
before being shipped to customers.
Part of the problem is that many semiconductor vendors
have no idea how IBIS models are used. So, it's
largely a problem of education of their engineering
and (more importantly) marketing departments.
I have high hopes that the IBIS Model Validation
committee that recently had its inaugural meeting
will help turn the tide, both in terms of educating
vendors who need it and in empowering their
customers to demand a higher level of effort
in creation of IBIS models.
Kim
On Monday, March 25, 2002, at 12:59 PM, Todd Westerhoff wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> We have been doing a lot of comparisons between IBIS and HSpice models
> lately, with a lot of less-than-satisfactory results.
>
> I have an open question for the semiconductor suppliers among us:
>
> What testing is performed after an IBIS model is created, to ensure=20
> that the
> completed model behaves as expected? I'm interested in responses from
> vendors that actually SIMULATE the IBIS model before distributing it =
for
> customer use. It looks to me as though many of the models I've =
received
> were never used in a simulation before being released ... and, as a
> potential customer, I find that quite disheartening.
>
> So the question is - what processes are being used to test IBIS models=20=
> and
> ensure they function properly before their release to customers?
>
> As always, replies both on and off the list are greatly appreciated.
>
> Todd.
>
> Todd Westerhoff
> Signal Integrity Engineer
> Hammerhead Networks
> 5 Federal Street - Billerica, MA - 01821
> email:twester@xxxxxxxxxxx - ph: 978-671-5084
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>
> "I=92m starting With the man in the mirror
> I=92m asking him to change his ways
> And no message could have been any clearer
> If you wanna make the world a better place
> Take a look at yourself, and then make a change"
>
>
> - "Man in the Mirror", Michael Jackson
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