[SI-LIST] Re: HSTL and SSTL

ARUN,
The standard for HSTL is at:

http://www.jedec.org/download/search/jesd8-6.pdf

SSTL can also be found in two documents on the JEDEC Website:

                                                                           
                                                                           
                                                                           
                                                                           
                                                                           
 JESD8-15A                                                                 
 Published: Sep-2003                                                       
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 STUB SERIES TERMINATED LOGIC FOR 1.8 V (SSTL_18):                         
                                                                           
                                                                           
 This standard defines the input, output specifications and ac test        
 conditions for devices that are designed to operate in the SSTL_18 logic  
 switching range, nominally 0 V to 1.8 V. The standard may be applied to   
 ICs operating with separate VDD and VDDQ supply voltages. The VDD value   
 is not specified in this standard; however VDD and VDDQ will have the     
 same voltage level in many cases.                                         
                                                                           
                                                                           
                                                                           
                                                                           
                                                                           
                                                                           
 JESD79-2C                                                                 
 Published: May-2006                                                       
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 DDR2 SDRAM SPECIFICATION                                                  
                                                                           
                                                                           
 This comprehensive standard defines all required aspects of 256Mb through 
 4Gb DDR2 SDRAMs with x4/x8/x16 data interfaces, including pinout,         
 addressing, functional description, features, ac and dc parametrics,      
 truth tables, and packages. Standard JESD79-2 uses a SSTL_18 interface,   
 which is described in another JEDEC standard called JESD8-15. The purpose 
 of this Standard is to define the minimum set of requirements for         
 compliant devices 256Mb through 4Gb, x4/x8/x16 DDR2 SDRAMs. System        
 designs based on the required aspects of this specification will be       
 supported by all DDR2 SDRAM vendors providing compliant devices. Changes  
 between versions is indicated in Annex A.                                 
                                                                           
                                                                           




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Hi,

I want to know more details about HSTL and SSTL.
Please guide more about the same.

ARUN


-----Original Message-----
From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Peterson, James F (EHCOE)
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 5:16 AM
To: Benny Yan
Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: OUTPUT IMPEDANCE CALCULATION [IBIS]

by the way, in the equation I wrote below the "3D" is a formatting
artifact and shouldn't be in the equation...
(I'll try again to write here); Vout <equals> Vin * (Zo/(Zo+Zs)) ...and
solving for Zs

-Jim
________________________________

From: Benny Yan [mailto:bennyzhi@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:10 PM
To: Peterson, James F (EHCOE)
Cc: torocar@xxxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [SI-LIST] Re: OUTPUT IMPEDANCE CALCULATION [IBIS]


Eric Bogatin mentioned a method in his book<Signal
Integrity:Simplified>.

Benny Yan


On 9/19/06, Peterson, James F (EHCOE) <james.f.peterson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

        Another method to establish the source impedance (Zs) of a
driver from
        an IBIS model is in a simulation (still using Ohms law):

        Create a circuit with the ibis model driving a very long
transmission
        line (12 inches) with a known trace impedance (Zo). Drive the
line both
        high and low and observe the porch in the waveform. The porch is
caused
        by the ratio of Zs and Zo. Zs can be solved by rearranging this
very
        familiar equation :

        Vout =3D Vin * (Zo/(Zo+Zs)) ...solve for Zs, Vout is Vporch and
Vin is =
        the
        total voltage swing

        The porch will last as long as 2x the propagation time of the
T-line.

        -----Original Message-----
        From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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        On Behalf Of Scott McMorrow
        Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 4:48 PM
        To: torocar@xxxxxxxxx
        Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: OUTPUT IMPEDANCE CALCULATION [IBIS]

        Carlos

        Ohms law (Z=3D V/I).  You have a V/I curve at min/typ/max device
=
        corners.


        regards,

        Scott

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        Carlos Toro wrote:
        > Hello members of the SI list.
        > Does anyone has experience with calculating the output
impedance of a=20
        > microcontroller pin given its IBIS model?.
        >
        > I don't have access to the silicon yet, just the IBIS for now.
I=20
        > intend to match impedances of critical PCB traces of our
design.
        >
        > Thanks in advance.
        >
        >
        >  =20

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