[SI-LIST] HSDD: Re: SI Position Open READ THIS!!!!

  • From: "Howard Johnson" <howiej@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <freeman@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 10:13:35 -0800

Dear Jim Freeman,

I agree with you whole-heartedly that EE education is being
shunted aside
in favor of computer science at many universities. It's
unfortunately, really, that 
educators have to make such decisions, but understandable of
course. Out of
the torrent of papers, conferences, and new information
available each year they 
have to choose what is worthy of presentation to new
students, and what has become
"passe" or is available otherwise as "on-the-job" training.
For example, at my 
alma matter Rice University I've heard rumors that the EE
curriculum may soon be
dropped or scaled back. From my perspective, eliminating
subjects like transmission 
lines, electromagnetic fields, (low voltage) power
distribution and interconnect 
modeling would be a mistake, but then I don't get to make
such decisions (and I'm 
glad I don't have to). 

Clayton Paul has done a lot to popularize the teaching of
EMC 
in colleges and universities with his textbook "Introduction
to Electromagnetic
Compatibility" and his persistent efforts within the IEEE to
discuss EE
curriculum. At this point I'm wondering who will step
forward to do the same job 
for the field of signal integrity. 

Best regards,
Dr. Howard Johnson, Signal Consulting Inc., 
tel 509-997-0505,  howiej@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
http:\\signalintegrity.com  -- High-Speed Digital Design
articles, books, tools, and seminars


-----Original Message-----
From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jim
Freeman
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 2:17 PM
To: ventham@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; owsley@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: SI Position Open READ THIS!!!!



Hi All,
    Howard's article compares vintage with EMC. As one of
the vintage engineers,
I think the problem is really in the conversion from an
emphasis on the
ELECTRICAL in E.E. to an emphasis on computers in electrical
engineering. Most
engineers who graduate today think of electrons as an
anachronism, if they think
of them at all.
    As us vintage engineers remember, we were educated when
the transition was
occurring from motors, relays and tubes to a solid-state
emphasis. We have
performed our engineering job so well that those who
practice engineering today
don't worry about solid-state. it just works. We are
generally in the same boat
with today's engineers in regard to motor theory because it
was being
de-emphasized in our education.

Thanks
Jim Freeman

Mike Ventham wrote:

> Greetings All,
>
> I think Howard has now recognized vintage as being related
to bald.
>
> See "NOT ALL EMC ENGINEERS ARE BALD"
> Don't believe every myth you hear.
> http://article.EDNMag.com/UM/T.ASP?A5.12.1729.9.1940859194
>
> At 02:28 19/06/01, Bill Owsley wrote:
>
> >At 11:45 PM 06/18/2001 +0100, Mike Ventham wrote:
> >
> >
> > >The same seems to go for EMC engineers. I have met many
who are 'old'
> >
> >the politically correct now use 'vintage' instead of
'old'  - like in wine...
> >;>
> >
> > >analog engineers!
> > >
> > >At 23:19 18/06/01, you wrote:
> > >
> > > >i kinda get the feeling that its the other way
around...  a true SI
> > guy is a
> > > >
> > > >microwave guy who's turned digital.  ;-)  all the
digital guys that
> > pick up
> > > >on a little microwave are just SI wannabe's.
> > > >
> > > >miker
> > > >
> > > >p.s.  i'm a digital guy and the above is said
tongue-in-cheek.
> > > >
> > > >(snipped for bandwidth)
> >
> >----------------------------
> >Bill Owsley,   owsley@xxxxxxxxx
> >919) 392-8341
> >
> >Compliance Engineer
> >Cisco Systems
> >
>
> Regards
>
> Mike
>
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