The seperation between inductive and capacitive crosstalk has been analysed by Dr Howard Johnson in the High Speed Digital Design Book. Chas -----Original Message----- From: Chris Cheng To: 'duanet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx'; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 9/29/2003 2:14 PM Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Guard traces for differential pairs I would love to learn how could xtalk be "capacitive" or "inductive" only. Are you saying you can have non-zero off diagonal element on one (C or L) matrix while the other is zero ? Chris -----Original Message----- From: Duane Takahashi [mailto:duanet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 8:56 AM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Guard traces for differential pairs It also depends on the type of crosstalk: electric or magnetic ( capacitive or inductive ). If it's magnetic, guard traces won't help. If it's capacitive, guards will help but will leave you with the 'magnetic remainder' of the xtalk. I've seen high impedance lines, more than 60 ohms, exhibit inductive xtalk. My guess is guard traces would not have helped in this case. Regards, Duane ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu