Dear All, I am sorry! there must have been some wrong when I sent this mail, So I send it again. HongchengYin ----- Original Message ----- From: yinhongcheng To: Sinha, Snehamay ; tamast@xxxxxxxxx ; weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [SI-LIST] PCI IO buffer problem? Hi,Snehamay,todd t and Steve, Thank you all very much for your good information which helps me much. I have read PCI Spce, I found there were some difference in electric spce between PCI IO and generic IO. At the same time, I checked some vendor's or foundry's such as IBM/TI/TSMC/SMIC, I found they all had special PCI IO buffer cell, and I have done some simulation to compare generic IO and PCI IO with TSMC 90g library, I found PCI IO had much bigger driver current than generic IO buffer. As Snehamay mentioned, if there is a additional ESD clamp ckt for CDM protection, then it's better not use generic IO buffer to replace special PCI IO in PCI interface design. Best Regard HongchengYin ----- Original Message ----- From: Sinha, Snehamay To: yinhongcheng ; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 9:52 PM Subject: RE: [SI-LIST] PCI IO buffer problem? For a IO to be able to withstand, hot plugging, the receiver will need an additional ESD clamp ckt for CDM protection which may or may not be present in a standard CMOS receiver. Snehamay -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of yinhongcheng Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 3:37 AM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] PCI IO buffer problem? Hi, All, Some vendor or foundry provides special PCI(33Mhz or 66Mhz) IO buffer in their IO buffer library during ASIC design,but some not. So I want to know what is the difference between common CMOS logic IO and special PCI IO, if we can use commom IO buffer replace special PCI buffer during ASIC design?if do so, what factor (such as Hot-plugging and so on) should be take into account? thanks! Best Regards HongchengYin ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu