[SI-LIST] Re: FPGA SI Issues in Space Applications
- From: "Derek Walton" <lfresearch@xxxxxxx>
- To: cpad@xxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:21:16 -0500
Just to add to the mix..
The philosophy of designing circuits to withstand partical effects is a
tricky subject to discuss openly, it may even have restrictions.
Needless to say, considder the effect on a semiconductor when high
energy particals arrive in the lattice.
The art/science is designing a circuit such that the effects first are
not catostrophic: second, that over time with irradiation does not
change the circuit characteristics.
More than this.... you will need more specialised help
Chris Padilla (cpad) wrote on 4/26/2006, 12:59 PM:
> You are basically asking about immunity requirements for the chips. To
> put it simply, you need to protect the ICs by placing them in a sealed
> metal box. Naturally, the devil is in the details!!
>
> How do you plan to test this product to this environment? Back in my
> days at NASA-Ames, we used to take semi-conductor arrays to the
> cyclotron located at the University of California, Davis, and fire
> particles at the arrays to simulate sun bursts and cosmic waves and
> such.=20
>
> You can also take such products to any EMC lab and have them do radiated
> immunity tests. Basically they just bombard your product with RF energy
> and see how it performs.
>
> Chris Padilla
> SI Engineer
> Cisco Systems
> San Jose, CA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Sammit Adhya
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:42 AM
> To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: FPGA SI Issues in Space Applications
>
> Our area of research is unique in the sense that we're using SRAM based
> FPGAs from Xilinx. The idea is that with scrubbing and triple modular
> redundancy, that should provide immunity for SEUs and latchup's. That
> has already been done, so we're working on basically the ability to
> dynamically move around different reconfigurable modules in the case of
> failures. In theory, until you have hit the device with the maximum
> ionizing dose, the devices should not fail.
>
> I guess I just don't have a good understanding of how SI issues affect
> signals within the FPGA and what are the common practices used to
> prevent these issues when writing HDL. The harsh space environment I
> would think adds to this issues and I haven't seen much on trying to
> inherently protect the hardware. Thanks!
>
> Sincerely,
> Sammit Adhya
>
> On 4/26/06, Tom Biggs <tbiggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Assuming you are talking about satellites and not launchers, one issue
>
> > to consider is that long term radiation affects transister=20
> > characteristics. So you can't trust specs such as Vil, Vih, Vol,
> Voh,=20
> > rise times, propogation delays.
> >
> > So how do you design? You understand what the affects are, and you=20
> > adjust the numbers for the worst case over the lifetime of the=20
> > satellite. Lots of extra margin in the design is highly recommended.
> >
> > I'm glad to see that you've addressed the SEU issue. A flip-flop
> that=20
> > decides to change state randomly is difficult to design around. It
> is=20
> > even harder when the flip-flop is controlling the configuration of the
>
> > FPGA. How are you dealing with radiation induced latch-up?
> >
> > Using non-radiation hardened electronics in space is tricky.
> > There was once a Japanese satellite that used seven microprocessors.=20
> > The processors were not radiation hardened, but they didn't worry=20
> > because of all of the redundancy. If one or two get a radiation hit,=20
> > the others take over and reset the crashed cpus. Then along came a=20
> > strong solar flare and knocked out all seven at once. End of
> satellite.
> >
> > -tom
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> > [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On Behalf Of Sammit Adhya
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 11:21 PM
> > To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [SI-LIST] FPGA SI Issues in Space Applications
> >
> >
> > Hello All,
> >
> > This is my first time posting to the list so hopefully the question=20
> > isn't too generic. I'm currently working on a research project to
> use=20
> > FPGAs as flight computers in space at the University of Colorado. I=20
> > was wondering if people had any general advice for designing
> circuits=20
> > in space with it comes to signal integrity and high radiation
> environments.
> >
> > Things like single event upsets have already been addressed, but I was
>
> > looking for some insight issues beyond SEUs, SETs and SEEs. Any=20
> > specific ways of routing circuits or designing them to inherently=20
> > protect them the harsh space environment? Thanks!
> >
> > --
> > Sincerely,
> > Sammit Adhya
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Derek Walton
L F Research
Poplar Grove, IL 61065, USA
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