[SI-LIST] Re: Eye diagram measurement

  • From: "Jim Antonellis" <janton@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 11:31:25 -0400

Hi Scott,

Thanks for the reply. I appologize, I forgot that approach,
and as you astutely point out, it is very costly (perf) in
SPICE which is why I ran it external.

Thanks for your time,
jim


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[mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Scott McMorrow
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 11:22 AM
To: Jim Antonellis
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Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Eye diagram measurement


The trick is one set of measure statements to cover each bit cell, which
results in 100's, 1000's or 10000's of measure statements for an entire
simulated data stream.  It can be done and implemented with a script
that parses the excitation pattern, and then processes all of the
measurement results.  It is not pretty.  It is an exceedingly slow post
processing operation in HSPICE, when the time resolution is down in the
1ps range. Which is why other external waveform processing, as is done
in the SiSoft tools, is more desireable.
scott

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Jim Antonellis wrote:

>Hi Scott, Jaaprakash,
>
>I looked into this a while back, and I thought using the HSPICE
>.MEASURE construct you did not have the ability to make multiple
>bit cell measurements. Could you please share the .MEASURE syntax
>that would make this possible as I had to resort to a post-proc
>spreadsheet last time I did it.... and would greatfully appreciate
>the "trick".
>
>Thx,
>Jim
>
>
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>To: edpc108@xxxxxxxxx
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>Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Eye diagram measurement
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>
>Jaaprakash,
>
>Yes.  It can be done with .measure statements, or it can be done with
>SiSoft's SiAuditor measurement capability.
>
>scott
>
>Scott McMorrow
>Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC
>121 North River Drive
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>Jayaprakash wrote:
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>
>>Hi ,
>>
>>  Is it possible to measure eye diagram height and
>>width (not graphically) in HSPICE simulations?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>Best regards,
>>   Jayaprakash.
>>
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