Hi Scott, Thanks for the reply. I appologize, I forgot that approach, and as you astutely point out, it is very costly (perf) in SPICE which is why I ran it external. Thanks for your time, jim - Jim Antonellis janton@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sandburst Corp www.sandburst.com Office: 978.689.1669 Cell: 978.618.4745 This message and any attachments are Confidential and may be Legally Privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message from your system and notify us immediately. Any dis-closure, copying, distribution or action taken or omitted to be taken by an unintended recipient in reliance on this message is prohibited and may be unlawful. -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Scott McMorrow Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 11:22 AM To: Jim Antonellis Cc: edpc108@xxxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Eye diagram measurement The trick is one set of measure statements to cover each bit cell, which results in 100's, 1000's or 10000's of measure statements for an entire simulated data stream. It can be done and implemented with a script that parses the excitation pattern, and then processes all of the measurement results. It is not pretty. It is an exceedingly slow post processing operation in HSPICE, when the time resolution is down in the 1ps range. Which is why other external waveform processing, as is done in the SiSoft tools, is more desireable. scott Scott McMorrow Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC 121 North River Drive Narragansett, RI 02882 (401) 284-1827 Business (401) 284-1840 Fax http://www.teraspeed.com Teraspeed® is the registered service mark of Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC Jim Antonellis wrote: >Hi Scott, Jaaprakash, > >I looked into this a while back, and I thought using the HSPICE >.MEASURE construct you did not have the ability to make multiple >bit cell measurements. Could you please share the .MEASURE syntax >that would make this possible as I had to resort to a post-proc >spreadsheet last time I did it.... and would greatfully appreciate >the "trick". > >Thx, >Jim > > >- >Jim Antonellis janton@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Sandburst Corp www.sandburst.com >Office: 978.689.1669 >Cell: 978.618.4745 > >This message and any attachments are Confidential and may be Legally >Privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not >the intended recipient, please delete this message from your system >and notify us immediately. Any dis-closure, copying, distribution or >action taken or omitted to be taken by an unintended recipient in >reliance on this message is prohibited and may be unlawful. > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >[mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Scott McMorrow >Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 11:12 AM >To: edpc108@xxxxxxxxx >Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Eye diagram measurement > > >Jaaprakash, > >Yes. It can be done with .measure statements, or it can be done with >SiSoft's SiAuditor measurement capability. > >scott > >Scott McMorrow >Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC >121 North River Drive >Narragansett, RI 02882 >(401) 284-1827 Business >(401) 284-1840 Fax > >http://www.teraspeed.com > >Teraspeed® is the registered service mark of >Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC > > > >Jayaprakash wrote: > > > >>Hi , >> >> Is it possible to measure eye diagram height and >>width (not graphically) in HSPICE simulations? >> >> Thanks, >> >>Best regards, >> Jayaprakash. >> >> >> >>Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com >>------------------------------------------------------------------ >>To unsubscribe from si-list: >>si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field >> >>or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: >>//www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list >> >>For help: >>si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field >> >>List FAQ wiki page is located at: >> http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ >> >>List technical documents are available at: >> http://www.si-list.org >> >>List archives are viewable at: >> //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list >>or at our remote archives: >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages >>Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: >> http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >------------------------------------------------------------------ >To unsubscribe from si-list: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > >or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: >//www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > >For help: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > >List FAQ wiki page is located at: > http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ > >List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.org > >List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list >or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages >Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu