Hi Steve, Thanks for the reply, please find the details as below. 1) DRV---brkout---via---8inch routing-----via----conn---4inch routing----termination (x_p,x_n) 2) DRV---brkout--- 8inch routing-----conn---4inch routing----termination (x_p,x_n) Signal is probed near termination and we see less common mode noise in case 1, where we have via (modeled in HFSS as s4p) Common mode noise = (v(x_p)+V(x_n))/2 Thanks & Regards Lakshminarayanan. S 9840250902 -----Original Message----- From: steve weir [mailto:weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 4:32 PM To: Lakshmi Narayanan Sowrirajan, ERS-HCLTech Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [SI-LIST] Differential line Via - affecting common mode noise Where and how are you measuring your CM noise? Virtually all vias impose insertion loss. Non-transparent vias insert reactive discontinuities. Steve On 6/8/2011 11:49 PM, Lakshmi Narayanan Sowrirajan, ERS-HCLTech wrote: > Hi Experts, > How the via improve or degrade the differential lines common > mode noise and performance as I am getting more common mode noise for a case > where I don't have any via. If I include a transition via (modeled in HFSS - > s4p model) the common mode noise is getting reduced. Please direct me to a > good article/paper/book to understand the theory behind this. > > Thanks& Regards > Lakshminarayanan. S > > > ________________________________ > ::DISCLAIMER:: > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The contents of this e-mail and any attachment(s) are confidential and > intended for the named recipient(s) only. > It shall not attach any liability on the originator or HCL or its affiliates. > Any views or opinions presented in > this email are solely those of the author and may not necessarily reflect the > opinions of HCL or its affiliates. > Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, > distribution and / or publication of > this message without the prior written consent of the author of this e-mail > is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this email in error please delete it and notify the sender > immediately. Before opening any mail and > attachments please check them for viruses and defect. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.net > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > -- Steve Weir IPBLOX, LLC 150 N. Center St. #211 Reno, NV 89501 www.ipblox.com (775) 299-4236 Business (866) 675-4630 Toll-free (707) 780-1951 Fax ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu