[SI-LIST] Re: Decoupling of Oscillator
- From: "Brent DeWitt" <bdewitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <martin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 20:42:09 -0700
Maybe someone can explain it, but I've never understood adding _any_
additional impedance to a reference plane (call it "ground") connection. It
seems I should always be aiming for the common impedance here for reference
purposes. Creating an isolated power to reference current loop does seem to
show advantage when both high speed digital and low level analog live on the
same board. Am I missing something?
Regards,
Brent DeWitt
Datex-Ohmeda
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[mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Martin Euredjian
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Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Decoupling of Oscillator
From: Philip Ross Wellington
> Some provided Pi filters for the
> ground but that didn't work well logically because of the return path
> inductance and Signal Integrity (not even coined back then) induced
> problems.
On datasheets I've seen recommended isolation/filtering networks that look
like this:
(values chosen at random)
RAW_VCC -----------BEAD-------------- VCC'
| | | |
| | | |
22uF 0.1uF 0.1uF 22uF
| | | |
| | | |
RAW_GND -----------BEAD-------------- GND'
versus:
RAW_VCC -----------BEAD-------------- VCC'
| | | |
| | | |
22uF 0.1uF 0.1uF 22uF
| | | |
| | | |
RAW_GND ----------------------------- GND'
Is there any merit to the first approach, say, for a clock, or a device with
a PLL, or a sensitive analog sub-section? Both in terms of circuit
operation and EMI/RFI concerns.
I've also seen a couple where the beads are replaced with low or 0 ohm
resistors.
Thanks,
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Martin Euredjian
eCinema Systems, Inc.
voice: 661-305-9320
fax: 661-775-4876
martin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.ecinemasys.com
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