[SI-LIST] Re: DDR2 to Virtex 5 heating up and a few other questions

  • From: "Li, Tianqi . (S&T-Student)" <tlx6f@xxxxxxx>
  • To: "charlene radtke" <chuckiesanchez@xxxxxxxxx>, <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:30:40 -0600

Hi Charlene,

Probably caused by the FPGA settings. Some small settings like Digital 
Controlled Impedance, or other unexpected logic changes, or logic synthesis 
settings could change the current consumption. Two easy ways to examine this:


1) You could put original logic design file as well as new design file into 
Power Estimator respectively, to calculate the power consumption and inspect 
the difference. Note, Power Estimator maybe an Altera's tool name while Xilinx 
definitely have the identical tool.

Or

2) Download your new FPGA logic to old board or download original logic to new 
board, and test the temperature then.

Li, Tianqi
Cell Phone:573-308-5287


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Subject: [SI-LIST] DDR2 to Virtex 5 heating up and a few other questions
 
Hello Experts,
I have a Virtex 5 FPGA connected to a Micron DDR2 device running at 180MHz. I 
designed a prototype and am now spinning the design for another phase of my 
program. Both designs use the same V5 and the only difference between the DDR2s 
used in each design is that one if a -3 and the other is a -3E version. 


These are the differences in the 2 design:
    The Layout had some improper return paths set up for Vref and Vtt that were 
corrected in the 2nd design. 
    I had series resistors on all data lines in the prototype that were removed 
in the 2nd design.
    I used all STTL18 class 1 on all IO in prototype. In the 2nd design I 
experimented with STTL18 class 1 and class 2 on control and data lines. (I read 
several app notes that mentioned both - and am currently confused on what is 
the correct approach)
    On both designs, data transfer stops working beyond 180MHz. 
    On the prototype design, I didn't notice the heat that I am noticing on the 
2nd design. 

    During my DDR2 tests, current consumption spikes up to 2.12A from approx 
1.2A as read from the power supplies.
    I am using a TI switch regulator to produce 1.8V.
    I am using a 0.9v LDO for VTT VREF that is enabled by a seperate FPGA on 
the board (not the V5).
    
According to the system monitor in the V5, the temperature peaks at about 66 
deg C on the 2nd design (about 10 deg hotter than the prototype design). I'm 
not sure if this is an issue with the DDR2 or the V5 but I really want to 
understand what could be causing this. I have checked bus contention and have 
also tried running DDR2 with various IO standards. 

Any brainstorming assistance and advice is appreciated.
Charlene


      
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