Hi All, Thank you for your inputs. I thought that i would get some comments before going for the simulation. I'll do the simulation and get back if there is any problem. Thanks, Kathir On 3/31/08, Ravinder.Ajmani@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <Ravinder.Ajmani@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Hi Kathiresan, > > I have designed two designs with single 32-bit DDR1 (160 MHz and 200 MHz). > It is possible to realize these designs without VTT termination, if the > trace length is kept small (< 1.5"), and Half-strength drivers are used at > the DRAM. I used series terminations on the DDR side only, as my ASIC > drivers are well behaved. If your processor has impedance matched drivers > and the trace length can be further minimized, then you may even be able to > use the Weak drivers on the DRAM without using any terminations. > > The best way to find it out will be by running a simulation. > > Regards, Ravinder > Server PCB Development > Hitachi Global Storage Technologies > > > Email: Ravinder.Ajmani@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > *"Kathiresan K" <k.kathir@xxxxxxxxx>* > Sent by: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > 03/31/2008 07:18 AM > To > si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx cc > Subject > [SI-LIST] DDR1 without VTT termination > > > > > Hi, > I need to have a single chip DDR1 (160 MHz, 16-Bit) memory for a > processor. > I don't want to provide VTT terminations. I'll keep the trace length as > minimum as possible. I may provide series termination but I haven't done > pre-layout simulation yet. > Can somebody please clarify whether it can be designed without VTT > termination? If yes, what can be the maximum trace length I go for? If I'm > providing series termination, should I provide at both the ends for > bi-directional signals? > > Regards, > Kathir > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.net > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu