Andrew, Thanks for your answer. Your points make sense. The point is that 2 oz Cu is inappropriate for fine-pitch boards, particularly for large boards where the final feature size might vary over the board's surface due to non-uniform etch rates. Right? Is there a rule of thumb, like trace/space = 10/10 => OK for 2oz Cu, but 5/5 => not OK? A similar rule for 1oz Cu? Cheers, Stuart On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Andrew W. Riley III wrote: > Stuart, > > I do not see board warpage being a factor unless there are extreme > differences in copper layers of the PCB, or the fab house is not reputable. > > Coming from the layout side, I have only had complaints from fab houses WRT > tolerances and extended reliability at 2oz routing layers. At that time it > was the customer's request and I was able to talk them down with facts > supplied or easily researched and sometimes a conference call that included > an engineer specialized in signal integrity with reliable simulation tools. > > In an attempt to make this reply short, my experience has been that > increasing copper weight was not a favorable consideration in those designs. > Having the backup of an experienced and proven signal integrity expert on > call was a factor. > > Sometimes you gotta bite the bullet and let the powers that be know it's not > gonna be free. > > Cheers! > Drew > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stuart Brorson" <sdb@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: "Dagmara Avanindra" <dagmara.avanindra@xxxxxxxxx> > Cc: "SI LIST" <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:22 PM > Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Cu Thickness > > >> Dagmara, >> >>> I would advise staying away from 2 oz copper thickness, espeacially if >>> this >>> is a large board. >>> I have seen alot of reliability issues related to such a thick metal. >> >> I would be interested to hear in more detail about what type of >> reliability issues you have seen. Is it board warpage? >> >> Stuart >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> To unsubscribe from si-list: >> si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field >> >> or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: >> //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list >> >> For help: >> si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field >> >> >> List technical documents are available at: >> http://www.si-list.net >> >> List archives are viewable at: >> //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list >> or at our remote archives: >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages >> Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: >> http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.net > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu