I have been playing around with the Altera PDN tool. When I look at the ESR and ESL values on the Library page it seems the values match very closely with AVX SpiCap3 which makes me think that is were the values came from. When I used Kemet's spice program I get values that are quite different. One which stood out was an ESL of 1.9nh for a .01uF 0402 capacitor. So it makes me wonder if I use the values in the Altera library if the results are going to be anywhere close to reality especially if we are buying capacitors from Kemet or another vendor. I am assuming the ESL values in the Altera library don't include the mounting inductance since they model that separately. Is there any information comparing ESL from different capacitor vendors for 0402 or any other size capacitors? Thanks - Joel ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu