Dear All: I have one question about Ethernet Design and hope someone who is familiar with this field can provide your idea. For better impedance control in differential signaling, we route differential signal traces over specified reference plane, power or ground planes. Image plane (image plane) is a return current path for high speed single ended signal, but may not needed for differential signal pair because most return current will return back through opposite polarity signal. In my belief, power or ground reference is not a concern. But, I found different statements in different design guideline for gigabit chip. one said that differential pair should be reference to ground, the other said they should be reference to power plane. The later statement has further explain, it said: center tap of transformer will use the power which is the plane be referenced by differential pairs, so return current can be withing on the power plane. I confused about this statement!! The purpose of center tap is to remove unwanted common mode noise on differential pairs. If the return current mean this common mode current, I can understand. If it means others, I really don't know waht are they? Sorry, let me organize my question as following: (1)Why center tap capacitor pull up to power? not ground? (2)If I provide power to transformer through trace, not plane; then I don't need force differential pair routed over power reference, right? (3)Do we need really concern about return current on reference plane for differential signal? Reguads Jack ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu