Hi Tadashi : Yes, I can run this simulation and have also used "RANDOM" options with number of CYCLES as high as 6000. But large cycle numbers significantly reduce simulation speed. The simulations were carried out using Nutcracker version of XTK (on Windows NT platform), with back_xns 6.8.1.8 dated 2/25/2002. Check the version/date of your back_xns.exe. Older versions do not produce eye diagrams as efficiently. Regards, Abe -----Original Message----- From: Tadashi Arai [SMTP:arap@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 4:24 PM To: [SI-LIST] Cc: ariazi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [SI-LIST] Re: A question about XTK Hi Abe, Can you run such simulation WITHOUT ANY PROBLEM? I used to try "RANDOM" option (almost 1 year ago:), however it run for 64 cycles, it didn't run with "Segmentation Fault" for 128 cycles. I am not sure if this issue was fixed. Regards, On Mon, 18 Nov 2002 11:17:11 -0800 "Abe Riazi" <ariazi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Perry Qu Wrote: > > Hi, Abe: > > I'm interested to know how to do this in SIF also. Could you give a short > example showing the syntax in SIF to generate a pseudo-random bit pattern ? > I'm > interested in this mainly for pre-layout simulation in scratchpad. > > THanks > > Perry > > > > > Hi Perry: > > Here is an example .sif file utilizing the RANDOM option: > > Netname PERIOD: 10 %HIGH 50 CYCLES: 200 RANDOM OFFSET: 0.0 JTTER: 0.0 > > Using a recent Nutcracker version of XTK (on a Windows NT > platform), I have been able to select any driver of the net and then > produce an eye pattern at the input of a desired receiver. As noted in my > earlier post, the eye pattern can reveal information related to ringback, > jiiter, > min/max slew rates, source synchronous timing, etc. > > Best Regards, > > Abe Riazi > ServerWorks ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu