[shell-coding] Re: [Common Elements] Just a thought

Mark:

Raptor

>From: "Mark Belles"
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>Subject: [shell-coding] Re: [Common Elements] Just a thought
>Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 09:59:03 -0500
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>i've been working on a shell for work, unfortunately it's not open source due to the fact it's for my company... yada yada, but i digress. i've been following litestep and it's build for quite some time, just to learn how most of the stuff is done. hooks, and such. it's been my guiding lite so to speak. frankly, i'd love to see something from the ground up start, the bare essentials for a shell. common items such as a plugin interfaces, like windows shell extensions (maybe without the miserable com crap), a common taskbar/system tray implementation, or set of api's to create one, and some basic desktop/skinning api's. it's one thing to have these really kick ass open source shells floating about to look at, and it's another to have a really solid code base to look at/learn from. i know i've seen stuff done about 20 shades of different on pretty much every idea involved with shells, from timers to threads searching for active windows. lol. i think with the knowledge that's out there, and most of you guys know what you'd want in this stuff to, something really effective could be assembled in no time. and i mean nothing based on current implementations. just brainstorm and start fresh just to see what comes of it! it could be really fun. if it bombs, no biggie, we've still got the current builds to play with, but if not maybe others will see the new code and wanna run with it. ya just gotta start somewhere ya know? i keep hearing ppl that would like to see something common started, but i'm really curious who would be down with helping on something like that. if anyone is interested holla back and maybe we can start toying with some ideas.
>laterz
>-goose
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> From: Donelle Sanders
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> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 8:54 AM
> Subject: [shell-coding] Re: [Common Elements] Just a thought
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> I don't think raptor is a solution, Im using raptor because I liked the idea and I want to continue on with it. Yes rewrites would have to be made to support this idea but with any change like this, rewrites are going to happen regardless. I don't expect people to jump on the bandwagon with me Im just doing what I love to do and those that are interested can follow. While we are on the subject I invented a sort of "patch" for certain shells to interact with raptor with having to change "much" of there current implementations. This service is I call "Connectors" are more less proxies or a gateway that knows how to talk to say "Shell A" and raptor. I thought is would be facinating to see "Shell A" get information seemlessly as if it implemented the require interfaces for raptor. It was just an experiment that I was trying out for geoshell r4.9 , I had gotten the idea from ximian gnome's connector for ms exchange server. But anyhoo, I do appr eciate your opinion ;-) . (I'm glad somebody is thinking in the same direction as I), and I know this is hobby for most people but to me doing this is like the greatest gift God has given me and thats to code.
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> -Matrice(64)
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> >From: Kevin Schaffer
> >Reply-To: shell-coding@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >To: shell-coding@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: [shell-coding] Re: [Common Elements] Just a thought
> >Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 17:33:38 -0400
> >
> >I agree completely. It is my hope that this mailing list will help
> >to bring
> >about better cooperation between shell developers and better
> >integration
> >between shells. Although you didn't mention it specifically, based
> >on your
> >last post I assume your solution would be Raptor, or something
> >similar;
> >however, Raptor is not the solution. Raptor went about it the wrong
> >way.
> >Shells have to be completely redesigned to work with Raptor and that
> >is
> >why it failed. I feel the best way to achieve better shell unity is
> >to do it
> >incrementally and in a way that won't require major rewrites of
> >existing
> >code.
> >
> >--
> >Kevin Schaffer
> >
> >
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