[sac-forum] Re: Two Pleiades stars occulted last night (?) -- Doin's at SAC ATM

  • From: "RAY M VORBECK" <rvorbeck@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <sac-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 22:22:14 -0700

It was my telescope that was collimated by the "SAC Optics Team". As near as I 
have been able to tell, this scope was made in 1984 and is a 2080 LX and was  
the first LX series scope made. I was shocked by the great improvement the 
collimation made. I thought maybe the secondary was hanging loose as all I was 
seeing were a bunch of comets when I should have been seeing stars They did a 
great job and it was greatly appreciated. It was my first time at the ATM 
meeting also.


Ray Vorbeck
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  From: Jimmy Ray<mailto:jimmy_ray@xxxxxxx> 
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  Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:41 AM
  Subject: [sac-forum] Re: Two Pleiades stars occulted last night (?) -- Doin's 
at SAC ATM


  The "SAC Optics Team" looking like a Three Stooges Shtick out there!?! (Yea,
  we resembled that!)
  Was great fun over a Paul's last night. Was a first time for me, highly
  educational, glad I went! 

  Jimmy Ray

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  On Behalf Of Gene A Lucas
  Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:42 AM
  To: SAC FORUM; Randy Peterson
  Subject: [sac-forum] Two Pleiades stars occulted last night (?) -- Doin's at
  SAC ATM

  Greetings,

  At the SAC ATM meeting at Paul Lind's house last night, Jimmy Ray set up 
  his binocular mirror viewer in the driveway, and we looked at the Moon 
  with his 9x60 binos.  There were two bright stars near the Moon... this 
  was about 8 pm, I think.... Got me wondering... after a bit I realized, 
  the Pleiades grazes predicted on "Feb. 4th" were LAST NIGHT, Feb. 3rd  
  MST -- the ol' UT time thing again!!  The two grazing occultations were 
  predicted to be visible in the vicinity of Casa Grande, well south of 
  us, just at sunset.... I looked for, but did not spot, the star that was 
  predicted to be occulted ca. 10:30 pm.  Probably could not find it 
  because of the streetlights around Paul's house.  There is a long series 
  of Pleiades occultations this year, but not many grazes close to 
  Phoenix...  These two last night were unfavorable, due to the time, and 
  the later one was for a rather "flat" profile, and would have been 
  visible near Tucson, probably not worthwhile driving that far.  Total 
  lunar occultations and grazes are still worth observing and timing.  
  Predictions are available from the IOTA web pages.

  Other doin's....

  We set up and did a Foucault test on the 1995 Pierre Schwaar mirror from 
  the EVAC 12.5 inch DOB telescope (which I am now Custodian for)... Paul 
  Lind entered the test readings into his software, and printed out a nice 
  graphical plot.  (Thanks, Paul !)  The test showed that, overall, it is 
  an averaged 1/7 th wave mirror, with a calculated Strehl ratio of 0.9164 
  (meaning, about 92 percent of the light is focused into the center of 
  the Airy disk, or a very good reading).  The most important finding was 
  that the mirror is very smooth, with no bad zones or other adverse 
  indications. Measured R.O.C. is 131.8 inches, for a focal length of 65.9 
  inches, and an f: ratio of 5.27.  It is a full-thickness (2 inches) 
  Pyrex mirror, 12.5 inch diameter, good polish all the way to the edge.

   From the discussion and some sketched diagrams, Jimmy Ray gradually 
  came to understand the ideas behind the Foucault test and interpretation 
  of the shadows...  Nothing like a "hands on" optics demonstration !

  Dave Fredericksen was pleased with the yellow paint on the upper tube 
  section I brought along... (If you have seen his huge pickup truck, you 
  would understand...)  I will be doing some work on the scope to improve 
  it a bit, and will try to bring that out to star parties as frequently 
  as I can.  I had it assembled and in operation up at the EVAC 
  Boyce-Thompson two weekends ago, and it performed nicely.  Good views of 
  the Pleiades with a 56mm Super Plossl eyepiece -- I spotted the Merope 
  nebula easily.

  Another fellow (new member - name escapes) brought a 20-year-old, 8-inch 
  Meade LX3 SCT (or possibly a  model 2080), which was in serious need of 
  collimation.  The "SAC Optics Team" (Lynn Blackburn, Dave Fredericksen, 
  and Jimmy Ray, AKA Curly, Moe and Larry, nuk nuk) fiddled with it (!!) 
  and got it pretty well collimated.  Nice images.  From what the owner 
  described, the telescope was in very poor condition when he got it 
  (after years of storage under bad conditions), and it had to be cleaned 
  up thoroughly, including the optics.  He was pleasantly surprised that 
  it now works so well.

  I tried out my Ronchi eyepiece, and it showed test bands nicely on Sirius.

  Rick Tejera brought his little 4-inch collapsable Newt (constructed by 
  Pierre Schwaar), and re-cemented the secondary mirror.

  As always, lots of good discussion, soda pop, and cookies provided by 
  Paul's wife...

  Gene Lucas
  (17250)


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