[sac-forum] Re: The good news, SAC returns to astronomy

Jeff, I was one of the 3 votes against this also.  The part that I don't
like is that a stranger (not a club member) can attend and refuse to sign
the waiver, all the club will and can do is pay no attention to him.  Yet if
a club member attends the same star party and refuses, he will be brought
in-front of the board.  This is not a fair and equable system.  

Will I sign the waivers, Yes.  I voted "no" only because I don't feel that
the punishment is fair across the broad range, especially to club members
who are not willing to sigh the waivers, which does not include me. I have
enough insurance to protect myself, and very good health insurance.  Some
may not.

Thomas Hilton 

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Subject: [sac-forum] Re: The good news, SAC returns to astronomy

A sad day for SAC!

Do the SAC members really believe star parties are dangerous and thus 
require waivers?

To me star parties are no more dangerous than life itself. I feel 
SAC is shrinking from responsibility by requiring waivers and is very 
childlike. What is also sad is I did not see even one good reason for 
the waivers.

The key now seems to be not to be a SAC member and then when 
attending SAC events just retain your rights and do not sign any 
waiver. Since there is nothing SAC can do if you are not a member 
that would seem to be the best approach. I'm sure this will come back 
to bite SAC. I used to have respect for SAC.

Jeff

At 02:32 -0700 9/17/05, Steve Coe wrote:
Well, the vote has been taken and the Saguaro Astronomy Club has 
decided to amend the constitution so that a waiver can be put in 
place for the Messier Marathon.

I am happy that both sides got to say what they wanted and that the 
vote was finally taken.

  So, as I said earlier, let's get back to astronomy.  I think we have 
beat this horse far too often and I think that SAC needs to return to 
what it does best-set up some telescopes and look at the sky.

Looking forward to Cherry Road for next Saturday night;

Steve Coe


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