[sac-forum] Re: Rules of the road

Ooops.  I missed "excluding".  Oh well...


Richard Harshaw
Cave Creek, AZ


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Subject: [sac-forum] Re: Rules of the road

     I don't think that is the case. As it reads:

C. VEHICLE - A self propelled device and its appurtances, excluding 
devices moved by human power or used exclusively on stationary rails or 
tracks.

   And our contact at the BLM is very cool with us. The perks are that 
we don't build camp fires and our sites are left spotless. We should 
take note to the rules that dictate the use of a latrine for the 
disposal of human waste. We want to keep in good standing with the 
powers that be.

Andrew


Richard Harshaw wrote:
> You are probably right, Andrew, but the ordinance made reference to ANY
> vehicle, motorized or human powered, so that is why I asked for a
> clarification from the county office.
>
>
> Richard Harshaw
> Cave Creek, AZ
>
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> On Behalf Of Andrew Goodwin
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> Subject: [sac-forum] Rules of the road
>
>    I really don't think we have to worry about this. It seems to apply to
> off road travel and a "road" is defined as any paved (be it dirt or sand
> concrete or blacktop...) through way. The idea is to restrict ATV or any
> self propelled vehicle from damaging the terrain. And to reduce the
> emissions of such vehicles as part of the air quality laws. We only use
such
> roads to gain access to observing sites in a simple in and out act
(ingress
> and egress) If necessary we can get the written permission from the BLM
for
> our use of the roads we use. Many think that Hovatter is not a road but it
> is and the west side has parcels with addresses assigned. (see attached)
The
> only area we are to be included with this ordinance is when we turn off
the
> road to drive to our site. We do so on rubber tires and at a speed as to
> keep the dust to a minimum. Also take note that this property is owned by
> the BLM and is is located in La Paz county.
>
>   Two other sites are Cherry Rd and Five Mile Meadow and both are on
> National Forest land. The Cherry site is designated as "Public use" on the
> map that I gave to Rick. The 5MM is in a meadow that we have a verbal
> agreement with the ranger as to it's use.
>
>
>    Both Sentinel and Saddle Mtn as well as Vekol are off official roads as
> recorded by the Maricopa county GIS map. The all Arizona Messier Marathon
is
> on public dirt roads and then a private dirt road that we have permission
to
> use. (Farnsworth Ranch)
>
> That is my 2cents worth.
> I know that Rick would have had a more exotic form of currency.
>
> Andrew
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