[sac-forum] Re: New Moon weekend

They are the same location as far as CSC is concerned. They are too close 
together to list both and they are not interested in updating to that fine a 
difference.

Jack Jones
Public Events Coordinator
Saguaro Astronomy Club
Phoenix AZ
Telescoper@xxxxxxx
www.saguaroastro.org


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jimmy Ray 
  To: sac-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 9:14 PM
  Subject: [sac-forum] Re: New Moon weekend


  Looks like a weak front may pass through the area during the week with a 
building high behind it (calm and warmer for the weekend?) Upper 90's possible. 
I have already gone out and bought a pop up sun shade and a 5 gallon water 
cooler in preparation. As far as Sky Clock, are Hovatter and KOFA one in the 
same or at least close enough for our purposes? Not like we'll need to know how 
hot we are or how hard the wind is blowing but I'll bring my portable "weather 
station" anyway...
    -----Original Message-----
    From: sac-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:sac-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jack Jones
    Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 5:24 PM
    To: sac-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [sac-forum] Re: New Moon weekend


    Tomorrow Monday I will contact Gila Bend PortaPotty Inc and see if they 
will deliver to the Antenna site, but I don't think they will and the cost will 
be prohibitive. I think I can find an alternate in Quartzsite, so go on with 
the discussion. I prefer the Antenna site because of lack of dew, chiggers, and 
other campers, but would keep an eye on the wind forcast.

    Jack Jones
    Public Events Coordinator
    Saguaro Astronomy Club
    Phoenix AZ
    Telescoper@xxxxxxx
    www.saguaroastro.org


      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Steve Coe 
      To: sac-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 1:42 PM
      Subject: [sac-forum] Re: New Moon weekend


      Let's get all the votes in and let everyone who wants to say something do 
so.  The directions to the Hovatter "Antennas" site was included in my first 
message.



      Steve Coe



      -----Original Message-----
      From: sac-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:sac-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jimmy Ray
      Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 12:54 PM
      To: sac-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Subject: [sac-forum] Re: New Moon weekend



      Very well. With that said, I'm just gonna follow you guys. Say where and 
when and I'll be there...

        -----Original Message-----
        From: sac-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:sac-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Steve Coe
        Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 12:24 PM
        To: sac-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [sac-forum] Re: New Moon weekend

        Jimmy;



        The drive to Sentinel is longer than Hovatter Road, but it is pretty 
dusty and we have a Sentinel star party planner for November 17-18.



        Steve Coe





        -----Original Message-----
        From: sac-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:sac-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jimmy Ray
        Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 9:52 AM
        To: sac-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [sac-forum] Re: New Moon weekend



        If we're going to stay down in the desert, what about Sentinel? Temps 
and weather about the same? Mileage?

          -----Original Message-----
          From: sac-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:sac-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Steve Coe
          Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 6:35 AM
          To: sac-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
          Subject: [sac-forum] New Moon weekend

          Howdy SAC;



          We had a great evening at Cherry Road, lots of folks and scopes.  The 
sky was turbulent, but clear, and we had fun watching the Summer skies go away 
and the Autumn skies appear.  



          I would now like to start the discussion about the club star party 
for next weekend.  As I said at the club meeting, I think that going to 5 Mile 
Meadow is going to present the problem of cold temperatures and dew.  I still 
believe that.  By 10 PM at Cherry Road there was dew already forming.  
Obviously that problem will only be worse at a higher altitude.  



          My thought is that we have two reasonable choices:  Cherry Road again 
or stay on the desert floor at Hovatter Road.  If there are a few folks who 
don't know where the Hovatter site is located, I will put the directions at the 
end of this email.  Basically, it is 100 miles from central Phoenix on I-10, 
about 25 miles this side of Quartzsite.



          The temperature at Cherry Road was quite comfortable and the dew was 
irritating, but manageable.  The good news about the Hovatter site is that the 
dew will not be a problem and the nighttime temperatures will be very 
comfortable.  The bad news about Hovatter is that the daytime temperatures will 
be warm.  We can string up some tarps for cover from the Sun and wait for night.



          So, I will end this email with my vote and that is Hovatter Road.  If 
there is a general clamor to hold a star party in the Rim country at 5 Mile 
Meadow, then so be it.  We do need to decide so that the portable toilet can be 
ordered.  I await your input.



          Clear Skies to us all;

          Steve Coe 



          Hovatter Road  "Antennas"  site



                      North
                     


               

          This site is 100 miles from central Phoenix.  Drive west on I-10 to 
the Hovatter Road exit; that is exit number 53.  This is about 40 miles past 
the Palo Verde nuclear power plant.  At the end of the off ramp, turn left over 
the freeway and drive over the canal and then the road takes a sharp right and 
the pavement ends at a "dead end" sign.  Turn left at the sign and you will be 
headed directly toward some radio and cell phone antennas.  After you pass the 
antennas the road takes a sharp right and makes its way through a wash or 
stream gulley; then the road levels off for half a mile before you pass into a 
second gulley.  As soon as you come out of the second gulley the observing site 
is on your left.  It is a large desert pavement that is exactly 2 miles from 
the I-10 freeway.

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