[sac-board] Re: Printed materials

Slow down, Paul... there's no need to rush into any more changes just yet. 
Have a look at the printed results. Then we can discuss any changes for the 
next time. There are 200 flyers in the envelope Gene will bring to the party 
(190 to be folded) - a sufficient quantity to get us into next year. We can 
revisit this after the holidays.

Peter

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Dickson" <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <sac-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 4:28 PM
Subject: [sac-board] Re: Printed materials


On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 17:34:02 -0700, Peter Argenziano wrote:

I reformatted your message so it wasn't one-line paragraphs so I could
indent them.

> I noticed that the three columns aren't exactly the same width, but
> certainly close enough for this project. The variance is within four
> points, or so. In future printing, I'd probably omit the fold
> marks. When shifting the image they have a tendency to not align
> precisely on the fold, thereby appearing in the clear space. If they
> aren't eliminated I'd at least make them a light grey color. I did
> have to shift one panel (on one side only) to keep the graphics off
> of the fold. In the master document the panel with the map and
> calendar should be shifted (independently of everything else) about
> 6 points (~ 2 mm) to the right. Also it wouldn't hurt to shift the
> panel with the three photos about 10 points (~ 3.5 mm) to the right.

I made the fold marks 1/3 their original height, and 1/5 the thickness
(now 3 pt by 0.1 pt).  You don't mention how I should move them.

I've moved the Calendar and Map panel the 6 pt to the right, but I'm
concerned with your suggestion about the panel with the three photos.
Currently they are 15.5 pts from the right edge and you want me to move
them 10 pts further right?  That's 5.5 pt or slightly more than a 1/16 of
an inch.  I haven't done this yet.


> I used PitStop Pro to do the shift and noticed (admittedly after
> they were printed) that the shift clipped the left edge of the
> orange-ish box. If I shifted it back to the right the fold mark was
> no longer along the fold. Given the intended purpose of this
> document I think they are of a quite acceptable quality. In fact,
> those who saw them thought they looked very nice indeed. Good job,
> Paul.

I thought the box was light-brown (if it's the box under the map), but my
program call it a shade of Goldenrod (Goldenrod 2).  I'll have to address
that after seeing the result.


> In the future it would be much easier for me to work with native
> files as this PDF didn't behave in PitStop as expected. I tend to
> use tools that are standards in the printing and publishing
> industry, and Adobe PDFs and PitStop are certainly that. I'm unsure
> how the tool Paul used built the PDF. It has been my experience over
> the years that PDFs built using engines other than Adobe's Distiller
> (e.g. Ghostscript, Amyuni, CGI scripts, various freeware and
> shareware, etc.) all produce slightly varying results. In this file
> almost all segments were flattened (except the photos), where
> normally almost all elements are editable. In this PDF all but the
> photos were tagged as uneditable. Peculiar. If we do something
> similar in the future, perhaps I can work with a PostScript version
> of the document? That I could bring into InDesign or Quark (printing
> and publishing standards) and have more control.

Despite Adobes ads in Acroread, they do not publish Distiller for Linux.

I'm not sure what you mean by "all segments flattened", but I've play
with some of the PDF option to create these two PDFs.  The first is to
enable layers, the second adds the disabling of "Link text as a PDF
article."

    http://members.cox.net/paul4sac/sac-handout-with-layers.pdf
    http://members.cox.net/paul4sac/sac-handout-non-linked-text.pdf

I can output a EPS version of each page if that's necessary.

-Paul

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