[sac-board] Re: [EVAC Cabinet 2005] All Arizona this or that

Thanks much, Paul, for this in-depth and factual coverage, missing only 
the date of Stan Gorodenski's first effort with PAS, which he shared 
with me, that I have buried in my files someplace now.
Gene Lucas
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Paul Dickson wrote:

>On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:11:48 -0700 (MST), Dean Ketelsen wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Wrong, Wrong, Wrong...
>>
>>The All Arizona Star Party was in fact started by TAAA back in the mid-80s
>>and was held for at least 4-5 times at their Empire Ranch location SE of
>>Tucson.  I think when I was on their board, we even had a rather poorly
>>received lecture series on saturday afternoon.  I think to appeal more to
>>the Phoenix folk, we agreed to release it to the more current central
>>location in the early '90s.
>>    
>>
>
>    Date         Location
>October 1983    David Levy's House
>   "    1984    Buckeye Hills Recreation Area
>   "    1985    Empire Ranch
>   "    1986    <no mention in SACNews>
>   "    1987    Empire Ranch
>   "    1988    "in Tucson" ( according to SACNews  :-)
>   "    1989    <no mention in SACNews>
>   "    1990    <no mention in SACNews>  EVAC's site mentioned on calendar
>                                         because that page was for SAC, EVAC,
>                                         and PAS newsletters. (see second PS)
>   "    1991    Empire Ranch             Combined SAC/EVAC star party at
>                                         EVAC's site.  First year of GCSP
>   "    1992    Arizona City site (about 21 miles from I-10)
>   "    1993             "
>   "    1994    new Arizona City site (23-24 miles from I-10)
>through present  Currently at 3rd "Arizona City site".
>
>My impression was (as a member of SAC, EVAC, and TAAA during the early
>90's) that the All Arizona Star Party was "hosted" rather than "owned" by
>an astronomy club.  EVAC was willing to accept the task of hosting the
>event.
>
>During this time frame I was an elected board member of EVAC and the
>newsletter editor for SAC, and soon after the transition I was a member
>of TAAA (attending only the meetings and their restaurant get-togethers
>afterward).
>
>
>The latest series of Messier marathons:
>
>    Date          Location
>March  1993     Arizona City site
>  "    1994     new Arizona City site  (south from Silverbell Estate signs,
>                                        turn left instead of the current
>                                        right.)
>through present  Currently at 3rd "Arizona City site".
>
>
>Year     Marathon Title
>1993 - Arizona Messier Marathon
>1994            "
>1995            "
>1996 - All-Arizona Messier Marathon
>1997 - Arizona Messier Marathon
>1998            "
>1999            "
>2000            "
>2001 - All Arizona Messier Marathon
>2002            "
>2003            "
>2004            "
>2005            "
>
>
>As for both club's using the "All Arizona" moniker: I tried to break A.J.
>of this habit while I was editor of SACNews.  Although I did publish the
>1996 marathon as the All-Arizona, all my subsequent editions of SACNews
>had the "Arizona Messier Marathon" (1997 and 1998).  Rick Tejera, the
>SACNews editor since 2000, mostly did not care what AJ called the
>marathon and let him do what he liked.
>
>My reason for not wanting to use the "All Arizona" or "All-Arizona"
>moniker was due to my sensitivity of copyright and trademark issues I
>picked up while publishing SACNews.  Although the "All Arizona Star
>Party" is not trademarked, that doesn't mean that the Messier marathon
>should use it too.
>
>I wrote a short article about the history All-Arizona Star Party, but I'm
>not current sure if it was published or when.
>
>       -Paul
>
>PS  A.J.'s reply to Joe's message did not go to the EVAC mailing list.
>    I'm including EVAC on this message.  A.J.'s reply is at:
>      http://www.freelists.org/archives/sac-board/04-2005/msg00015.html
>
>PS  During the 1990 calendar year, SAC, EVAC, and PAS shared a common
>    calendar page done by Pieter Burggraaf.
>
>
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