[rollei_list] Re: question on operating and on screen for RolleiGX and Hood
- From: "John M. Niemann" <jniemann@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 08:30:08 -0500
I have a 2.8C, and I bought it specifically for the ten blade shutter.
I enjoy experimenting with in and out of focus images, and how the two
make a complete image.
While Carlos is on to something when he claims the diaphragm has no play
in rendering good or bad bokeh especially when shooting wide open, I
think that the diaphragm does indeed have an influence on the rendered
image especially when shooting at f/4, f/5.6 or f/8. I am thinking of
those mirror lenses and those aweful out of focus donut looking blurs.
The Nikon AIS 85 mm f/1.4 has a twelve blade diaphragm and it renders
better images than my 90 mm f/2 Summicron. (YIKES! Leica heresy).
John
Per Einar Forberg wrote:
>
> Craig
>
> Excellent feedback! It feels good when someone finds good use of
> the experiences I've made.
>
> And welcome to the list!
>
> I certainly hope the 2,8 C feels like the correct camera for you as well.
> Secondhand prices for the 2,8C in scandinavia ranges from $200 to
> $400. The one I bought was really cosmetically pretty, although a
> bit slow on the 1 sec. I bought mine for about $300 including shipping
> from Sweden to Norway.
> Nowadays I'm thinking of selling the other Rollei TLRs which has become
> obsolete, in order to send my 2,8 C to Paepke in Germany for a full
> service. It's not cheap, but they are the most professional camerarepair
> in Europe as far as I've experienced.
>
> As i mentioned I bought the 2,8 C due to its 10 bladed iris diaphragm, and
> if you want to learn more about why this was important you can read up
> on something called "bokeh" (if you're not already familiar with that).
>
> I sincerely hope you find a nice 2,8C, and that you'll love yours as much
> as I love mine.
>
> Per Einar
>
> >Per,
> >
> >This is some excellent info for a guy who just joined this forum. I
> >have had an Automat 4 (I think--75mm Xenar) for about three years and
> >love it, though I haven't used it nearly enough. I used it the other
> >day on a shoot of a comedy group going to the Edinburgh Fringe Fest
> >and we all loved the shots. Instead of being satisfied with what I
> >have, it made me definitely want to get something "better," as in,
> >namely, either a 2.8 Planar or Xenotar in 80mm so I could get a little
> >closer for portraits. Coincidentally, I had decided on a Rollie 2.8 "C"
> >and then I see your post, and I feel like I made a good choice! Thanks!
> >Anybody know what a 2.8 C with a Xenotar would go for approximately? In
> >good shape?
> >
> >Thanks, and I learned something already the first day I'm here...
> >
> >Craig
> >
> >
> >On May 18, 2005, at 4:19 PM, Per Einar Forberg wrote:
> >
> >> "I think the GX feel somewhat different than the Automats I am used to
> >> handle - is it built better / worse than the old cameras ?"
> >>
> >> When it comes to Rollei TLRs, I've surprised myself many times on how
> >> emotional I am when it comes to using the TLRs.
> >> I'm that kinda guy who get worked up about reading and learning about
> >> bigger and better models of about anything. Certainly also when it
> >> comes to cameras. I've owned about 15-20 Rollei TLRs, and have 4 at
> >> the moment. After I fell in love with Rollei in general, and the
> >> TLRs, I've had this craving for some more advanced and "better"
> >> models. I've owned and used the most common medium format cameras,
> >> and a handful of the more odd ones. It's been like a long journey
> >> searching for that "right" camera to use and love - and not
> >> surprisingly Rollei was the solution for me. I've got a SL66E and
> >> 6008 Professional with extras, and feel that I need them both as they
> >> fullfill needs for different usage.
> >> These two cameras are almost top models within their series, and the
> >> only reason I haven't had the urge to replace them with their big
> >> brothers is that I really don't need the extra functions they provide.
> >> The TLR series is a much bigger family, and although I haven't owned
> >> and tried them all I've always believed I got the most important
> >> models. 3,5 F has been the model of my choise, and the most advanced
> >> and sofisticated model I've been able to afford. During the last year
> >> the secondhandprice on the 2,8GX has dropped a whole lot, or atleast
> >> there has been several good bargains available here in scandinavia.
> >> So the old urge to own a more advanced model came back to me. Two of
> >> my friends have obtained a 2,8GX during the last year, and I've had
> >> the opportunity to use and try the camera for myself. It's just
> >> totally wrong for me, and the only explanation I can give is that it
> >> just don't feel right. I was more or less surprised to experience how
> >> insignificant this advanced model was to me, even though I love to
> >> gorge in technicalities.
> >> I was even more surprised when I bought a 2,8C earlier. I bought it
> > > merely for that 10 bladed diaphragm, and thought of it to become a
> >> suplement to my 3,5F.
> >> I just love to use the 2,8C!!! I'm thinking of selling my other TLRs
> >> as the 2,8C fullfills my TLR needs (and my other MF Rolleis fulfill
> >> all other MF needs).
> >> And if anyone asks me why I prefer the less advanced 2,8C (which
> >> doesen't even have a meter), all I can say is: It just feels right.
> >>
> >> This is of course no answer to Rubens question, I just had to share
> >> my experience, and surprise, to how feelings play a huge part in my
> >> choise of TLR. Usually the possibilities and technical advantages are
> >> strong arguments when I invest in cameras (and electronics, computers
> >> etc), but when it comes to the Rollei TLRs - it's all down to
> >> feelings.
> >>
> >> Per Einar
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